Detail from initial plans for The Royal Sands, when the building was too high
As some of you may remember the developer was supposed to meet with the council this week to show they had the funding in place and the hotel operator for the development.
There is a rumour going around Ramsgate that there was no money on the table at the meeting and that to all intents and purposes we are going nowhere.
Detail from the same place on the plans after the building had been lowered, note the lorry embedded the ceiling.
Anyway I emailed Alan Poole the cabinet member in charge of the negotiations:
On 21 Dec 2012, at 11:13, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Hi Alan, there is a rumour going around Ramsgate that you met with SFP this week and they were unable to come up with anything much in terms of supporting the due diligence, essentially that there was no money on the table.
I guess with such an important project I have to put something about this on the blog, I would however prefer to get the facts straight, so can you please give me an update on the situation.
My understanding is that the council will take this as reverting to the original position and begin the process of determining the development agreement and cancelling the leases.
I would say this leaves the council with just about time to get the site cleared so we can see some use of it next season for leisure and parking.
Best regards Michael
And he has replied thus:
TDC are soon going to issue a statement........
This is the same place on a later set of plans where the problem has been resolved by using a shorter lorry
I phoned up Cardy Construction and asked them if they were still involved in the site, the person I spoke to said they weren’t prepared to comment.
I hope to be able to add something to this later, although I would guess any solution will be something like the details from the plans illustrating this post.
Update, I have just got the "statement" from the council, here it is:
|Update on Ramsgate Royal Sands Development|
Negotiations between Thanet District Council and the developer of Ramsgate Royal Sands are still underway.
That’s the latest news following a meeting held this week (Tuesday 18 December) at Thanet District Council.
The council will only sign a new agreement with the developer once it has absolute assurances that adequate finances and a hotel operator are in place. Negotiations are set to continue.
In the mean-time an existing agreement, signed in 2009, is in place should negotiations fail to reach a conclusion.
As I said in the rest of the post, it would probably be like the details of the plans above.
Translating the council speak it seems to suggest that we are heading back to the 2009 agreement, which I think means a deserted building site until 2017.
Here is the agreement http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/pda/id17.htm and if anyone else has a different translation of the council speak it would be appreciated.
In the meantime I will ask Alan for clarification.
This is the same place on the plans and as you can see in the latest amendment even the shorter lorry won’t fit under the building, so the architect has moved it to beside the building. I think this relates to when they discovered that part of the cliff wall has no proper foundations and doesn’t extend down to the baseline of the building, so they resolved this problem by raising the ground level at the back of the building.
I have added another picture detail from the latest 2009 plans to help with a reply to a comment, most of the planning sheets are on the uk planning site http://www.ukplanning.com/thanet the planning reference is F/TH/03/1200 should you wish to check for yourself.