Thursday, 19 July 2018

Pictures of Broadstairs in 1903, West Bay Cafe sketch, etc

Click on the pictures to enlarge them, these pictures all come form the first Ramsgate and Broadstairs guide that I know of that has advertisements with photos of the the local businesses advertising in it.

On the subject of possible advertising here is the link to the buy it now button for the guide http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/ramsgate___broadstairs_by_camera___pen_1904_1905.htm which also contains the link some old Ramsgate pictures from the guide.

 I think it fairly safe to assume that the photographer from E T Pike and Son came to Thanet and took the pictures in 1903, this was a serious commercial enterprise and it wouldn't have done for the photos to be out of date.

 In the local history business it is difficult to date most pictures as either they have no date on them, or they are postcards, and all you can be certain of - if they have a postmark with a legible date, is that the picture was taken at some time before the postmark.







I went to Herne Bay, Bichington, Westgate and then Broadstairs today, partly to buy books for the bookshop and partly as a day off.

I took a few photos, mostly out to sea, here is the content of the camera card http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/718l2/id8.htm

Lunch at West Bay Cafe on Westbrook promenade and the beginnings of some sort of watercolour sketch.

Ham Salad, very good

Wednesday, 18 July 2018

Photos of Margate in 2009 some older Ramsgate photos and some from today


It's a funny old thing you know, but photos which don't mean that much at the time soon become history.






Click on the links below for the rest of the 2009 Margate photos

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts4/id3.htm


http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts4/id4.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts4/id5.htm


http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts4/id6.htm


http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts4/id7.htm

Progress here in Ramsgate is different


I did a bit of painting at the Pav and took a few photos with my Nikon bridge camera afternoon and early evening
A fairly clear day today so the coast of France around the Calais area can be seen reasonably well

here is the link to the rest of today's photos http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/718l2/id7.htm

A reasonable batch of books went out in the bookshop today here is the link http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.com/2018/07/asterix-in-bookshop.html

Tuesday, 17 July 2018

Manston DCO update and my normal blog post

Since RSP/RiverOak announced on their website that they had resubmitted their DCO application I have been trying to find out why there isn't any mention of this on the pins website.
This is a picture of a plane at Nash Road.

pins have an unfortunate approach to publishing websites which means that they are inclined to insert old documents into the chronological list long after the date one would expect them to be published.

I think one appeared today dated 27th June

This is the link to it 

different to the other one dated 11th May and also called "Meeting Note"

This is the link to that 

I really am not sure if the info about Manston and the DCO is significant of anything much so I will start the blog post with historic Thanet aviation pictures and add some more to the blog later this evening.








Just what this is all about I really no longer know, I don't think there is much possibility that RiverOak intend to produce any sort of airport. It could be a land grab, or perhaps there are other possible motives.

I think that this quote translates as something like, we hope to get some money.

"The Applicant noted that there are often significant commercial sensitivities around funding arrangements and partnership agreements on such large infrastructure projects.

The Applicant was keen to demonstrate the availability and credibility of funding mechanisms whilst being cautious to only release into the public domain such documents as were necessary at a suitable time in the process so as not to prejudice its on-going relationships with funding partners."

Here in the bookshop work goes on as usual and this is the link to the books that got priced and put out on the shelves today we hope we got them all priced for less than you could buy a comparable copy online.

I have had a couple of skives to the Royal Victoria Pavilion aka Wetherspoons today

 Bit of a spot the difference again
 This has to be one of the best places to paint a watercolour from in the UK

I only have to tap the app on my phone and along come a cuppa accompanied by a bowl of fresh fruit and ice cream.

I did take a few photos today, I haven't looked at them yet as I don't get much time so it is a case of a direct cut and paste from the camera's SD card to my website, which hasn't quite finished yet.

Here are links to the photos

Link 1

Link 2  

Having had a look at the photos I have remembered work has started on the empty shop in York Street that was a butchers, the fair on the Pleasurama site doesn't look to be far off opening; the pictures tell the story.

Monday, 16 July 2018

St Lawrence in 1946 another Manston update


A hard days work today, most of it spent filling in forms 

While one of the people who works here in the bookshop was carefully scanning and turning this little guide into a reprint I took a few mobile phone pictures of pages for the blog

  
I suppose we will have it in print later in the week

I think the idea here is to produce a few booklets in the under £3 ballpark that one local person can send to another instead of a greetings card

something like this one we did the other day which I posted about then

A couple of 1940s pics from the north of the island to equal things up.

RiveOak have resubmitted their DCO, hard to know what to make of this as one would have assumed some sort of further consultation would have been essential.

"RSP’s Manston Airport Development Consent Order application is resubmitted
Published on July 16th, 2018

RiverOak Strategic Partners (RSP) is today (16 July 2018) re-submitting its application for a Development Consent Order (DCO) in which it seeks development consent and compulsory acquisition powers over the Manston Airport site. RSP’s plan for Manston envisages the airport as a major international cargo hub, as well as offering passenger flights.

The DCO application was originally submitted to the government Planning Inspectorate (PINS) at the beginning of April. However, it was withdrawn in early May to satisfy PINS’ requests for further information about certain parts of the application. These related to funding, to the categorisation of the project as being of national significance, and to certain aspects of the supporting environmental statements.

George Yerrall, a director of RiverOak Strategic Partners, said: “The original DCO application, which was submitted in early April, and which ran to 11,000 pages, was the culmination of twenty-seven months of intensive work on the part of the RSP team and our professional consultants. This included three separate consultation exercises as well as a complex planning appeal. We were therefore naturally disappointed to be informed by PINS that, in their view, the application fell short in certain respects. Nevertheless, we have taken up all the points raised by PINS and, working with our full team, we have used the past nine weeks to provide full and comprehensive responses to those points. We have also taken the opportunity to clarify the situation in relation to the two museums. We are promising to safeguard their position, as before, but have now made it clear that any future development consent relating to either museum would be a matter for Thanet District Council, rather than PINS.

“The submission sent to PINS today incorporates all that additional work and we believe that the documentation as amended is sufficient to justify the DCO application being allowed to move to the next stage.”

here is the link to the books we put out today 

I aim to add a bit more to this post if I get time

Only a few Ramsgate photos this evening this is the link to them

I don't really know what to make of the Manston DCO application the pins website makes it look as though pins are unaware of the resubmission

This link takes you to the post about the DCO withdrawal that links to the pins not explaining why it was withdrawn  

below - read from the bottom up are my emails about this

From: manston
To: michaelchild
CC: manstonconsultation
Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:36
Subject: RE: Manston DCO

Dear Mr Child

Thank you for your email.

RiverOak Strategic Partners recently held a meeting with the Planning Inspectorate to clarify this, and more information will be made publically available in the application documents as part of our resubmission. 

Kind regards,

Sam

RiverOak Strategic Partners
Manston Airport consultation team

From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]
Sent: 25 June 2018 15:40
To: manston@communityrelations.co.uk; manstonconsultation@bdb-law.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: Manston DCO

Hi Manston DCO team

Can you give me an update on the situation with the DCO?

I asked pins various questions about the meeting note on their website and the told me to ask you instead. my main question was:-

“The largest figure mentioned in the advice note is 83,222 ATMs, is this meant to be an annual figure? If it is it would mean 228 ATMs a day and wouldn’t seem viable given the infrastructure, history or the environmental implications?”

and pins answer was:-

83,222 ATMs is an annual figure. Please contact the Applicant directly for more information on matters relating to the design and operational capability of its Proposed Development. The Planning Inspectorate cannot prejudge what any future resubmission may comprise.

The rest are below (at the bottom) and I would appreciate your answers to what you can.


-----Original Message-----
From: Manston Airport <ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk>
To: michaelchild <michaelchild@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 17:22
Subject: RE: Manston DCO
Dear Mr Child

Thank you for your email.

“Now the application has been withdrawn does this mean that it should be seen as at the pre application stage again?”

If an application is withdrawn at the Acceptance stage, and the Applicant clearly states its intention to resubmit at some time in the future, the project stage is moved back to ‘Pre-application’. This is indicated on the project status bar located on the top right of the Manston Airport project webpage.

“If so does this mean that as a person who would be affected by the development I should be maintaining a dialogue with both pins and with the applicant, or should I view the application as over until such time as the applicant starts the application again with a revised PEIR and consultation?”

Until an application is resubmitted, the Applicant should be your first point of contact. It will be for the Applicant to take a view about whether any further consultation and/ or revised documentation will be required before the application is resubmitted.

“Did pins receive an application fee as part of the application process that stopped just before the deadline?”

The Acceptance fee (£6,939) was paid by the Applicant, and is non-refundable. Any resubmitted application will be a new application for the purposes of the Regulations, and will attract a second Acceptance fee.

“The largest figure mentioned in the advice note is 83,222 ATMs, is this meant to be an annual figure? If it is it would mean 228 ATMs a day and wouldn’t seem viable given the infrastructure, history or the environmental implications.”

83,222 ATMs is an annual figure. Please contact the Applicant directly for more information on matters relating to the design and operational capability of its Proposed Development. The Planning Inspectorate cannot prejudge what any future resubmission may comprise.

“With the existing freight capabilities of the airport I am assuming that a baseline of the previous CAA licence which I think was in 23,000 ATMs ballpark would be a significant factor, could you please confirm that this figure is approximately right?”

The Planning Inspectorate does not hold this information. Please contact the former licence holder.

Kind regards

James

Manston Airport Case Team
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Temple Quay House, Temple Quay, Bristol BS1 6PN
Helpline: 0303 444 5000
Email: 
ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk

Web: https://infrastructure.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/ (National Infrastructure Planning)
Twitter: @PINSgov

This communication does not constitute legal advice.
Please view our 
Privacy Notice before sending information to the Planning Inspectorate.



From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]
Sent: 08 June 2018 13:03
To: Manston Airport
Subject: Manston DCO


Hi Manston DCO team at pins

Could you kindly clarify the situation with some aspects of the RSP DCO for me, or failing that tell me who I should be asking?

Now the application has been withdrawn does this mean that it should be seen as at the pre application stage again?

If so does this mean that as a person who would be affected by the development I should be maintaining a diaogue with both pins and with the applicant, or should I view the application as over until such time as the applicant starts the application again with a revised PEIR and consultation?

Did pins receive an application fee as part of the application process that stopped just before the deadline?

I have read the pins advice note Meeting Update TR020002 and although I would doubt I properly understood it all and I am having considerable difficulty the ATM figures in it.

My understanding both from the application as described on the pins website “The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport, with some passenger services, with a capacity of at least 12,000 air cargo movements per year.” and from attending the three RSP consultations, communicating with the applicant and with pins by email I formed the impression that is that something in the 12,000 ATMs ball park is what the project intended and not an expansion of the previous capacity. Am I mistaken in this assumption?

The largest figure mentioned in the advice note is 83,222 ATMs, is this meant to be an annual figure? If it is it would mean 228 ATMs a day and wouldn’t seem viable given the infrastructure, history or the environmental implications.

I can see that pins main concern at this point would be the legal aspects of acceptance, but having the general impression of around 12,000 ATMs, which seems to be the sort of ballpark area that everyone I have discussed the project with assumed up until now. I am a bit concerned that the consultation process thus far was less informative than I had assumed.  

There is a sense in all of this that while pins can’t respond to questions about the project, you may consider commenting about what the project actually is. In terms of is it an intersection joining 2 major roads or 16?

There is also a sense in which pins seem to be instead of saying the project isn’t NSIP compliant, possibly by a factor of 8 times the project size, instead of rejecting the project pins appear to be trying unreasonably hard to help the applicant above and beyond the interested and affected parties.

With the existing freight capabilities of the airport I am assuming that a baseline of the previous CAA licence which I think was in 23,000 ATMs ballpark would be a significant factor, could you please confirm that this figure is approximately right?

Please appreciate in this instance I am not so much trying to ask pins if the figures arranged in some way make the project a NSIP but to gather the information to enable me to ask either pins or the applicant the right questions. One of which is is the project still seen as ongoing and front loaded?

Best regards Michael
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Sunday, 15 July 2018

The Moss Rose in Margate and Ramsgate, Teddy Bears Picnic in Albion Gardens in 2008 and today’s photos of Canterbury and Ramsgate

Some pictures of the Moss Rose and New Moss Rose, just how many local pleasure boats there were of this name is a bit of an unknown.











I particularly like the spelling mistake on this one, my primary school education was disrupted due to my disabilities to the extent that both spelling and grammar are something of an unknown country to me.


This picture is of the teddy bear's picnic in Albion Gardens ten years ago, here is the link to some more pictures of this event http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts/id41.htm local history? Well I guess it is to the children who attended it.

Canterbury today, a bit of painting and a bit of bookshoping, oh and one SD card £2 from the CEX Shop, a hot day for this sort of caper, mostly done under the air con in Chocolate Cafe.
Once again the Canterbury watercolour is a bit of a spot the diffrence

My main book buy was about cathedrals; Winkles's Architectural and Picturesque Illustrations of the Cathedral Churches of England and Wales By Winkles, Robert Garland and illustrated by Thomas Moule 1836-8 - London published by Effingham Wilson and Charles Tilt.

Not quite old enough to be antiquarian, so a modern book, although some may think 1836 more modernish for me though much more about being a bit focused on cathedrals.


On the cathedral front I am wondering about the bronze? flags that go on the bronze lightning conductors that are on the two towers over the main door.

These towers have a bit of a history and at the time the book I just bought was published the one on the left had fallen down.

More photos, Mostly of Canterbury today here is the link to them 

Work wise the books we put out in the bookshop on Saturday here the link to them