tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post1001123683549523447..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: Midweek ramble, council to discuss Manston cpo and the loss of a large proportion of their senior management. Michael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-58702441989273561282014-07-14T16:12:56.249+01:002014-07-14T16:12:56.249+01:00Peter,
Pecisely - I could not agree more. And thi...Peter,<br /><br />Pecisely - I could not agree more. And this is why I find the educated get up and go of the Save Manston Group so refreshing and reassuring. John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-24670316577830892032014-07-14T14:41:35.140+01:002014-07-14T14:41:35.140+01:00The main problem with Thanet is the negativity of ...The main problem with Thanet is the negativity of many of the residents, not the "poor" location or the naivity of foreign investors. Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-47548990459761980242014-07-14T13:19:48.984+01:002014-07-14T13:19:48.984+01:00Frankly John I think the main reason for Infratil’...Frankly John I think the main reason for Infratil’s involvement in UK airports was that they saw the UK in terms of Australia and New Zeeland where the logistics and infrastructure would have meant that Manston would most likely have worked.<br /><br />The problem is one of presentation, the southeast is the most prosperous part of the uk; there for Thanet is very prosperous, the airport is within 5 miles of Port Ramsgate; therefore it has a good shipping infrastructure, it is the closest larger runway to Europe; therefore it must be good for connecting with Europe. <br /><br />I guess what worries me is that when the airport was up for sale for less than the agricultural land value there were no takers among experienced uk airport operators. <br /><br />This all adds to my main point, it is the ongoing uncertainty which is economically damaging, particularly to Ramsgate. <br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-79917762157180768152014-07-14T12:08:09.402+01:002014-07-14T12:08:09.402+01:00Perp, You see it's like this.......oh never mi...Perp, You see it's like this.......oh never mind.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-86536744060068989592014-07-14T12:06:43.526+01:002014-07-14T12:06:43.526+01:00Michael, Have you considered speaking to these ...Michael, Have you considered speaking to these 'foreign investors' bearing mind that you perceive them to be rather naive? I'm sure they would welcome you informed opinion and caveats?John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-10795929230421018252014-07-14T11:18:46.142+01:002014-07-14T11:18:46.142+01:00Ah Peter the truth, well mine goes something like ...Ah Peter the truth, well mine goes something like this.<br /> <br />The main problem in terms of Ramsgate’s economy hasn’t been having the airport but uncertainty over what the airport could become.<br /> <br />Obviously having a busy airport would have an economic upside, but we have never had this, it would also have a downside, mostly noise pollution and it is the threat of this that is and has been damaging to Ramsgate economically.<br /><br />At the moment although to a lesser extent the treat, mostly of a cargo hub, remains and while this remains, there will be caution from some people, when it comes to investing in Ramsgate.<br /><br />I would say that you would need a major foreign investor that didn’t understand how it is that UK geography and behaviour patterns make Manston unlikely to succeed as an airport. <br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-20239401298750494382014-07-14T11:17:22.581+01:002014-07-14T11:17:22.581+01:00Peter I can see why you dont like other people to ...Peter I can see why you dont like other people to get ahead because you dont have a house of your own nor do you run a shop. But Ramsgate will need a bit spent on it before it starts to boom. Its getting people to invest that bit that is what would never happened if Manston had never closed but now it has and can now see plenty of investment its still early days with this CPO keeping some investors away but it wont be for ever and as soon as SMA realise that they have been sold a pup and it all blows over the better for ramsgate.<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-29834499878323423942014-07-14T09:57:55.299+01:002014-07-14T09:57:55.299+01:00This looks interesting too: http://www.kentnews.c...This looks interesting too: http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/taiwanese_delegation_to_engage_in_manston_airport_talks_1_3683046<br /><br />Meanwhile, Ramsgate businesses are all currently booming due to the lack of planes flying overhead... or so they predicted! What's the truth, Michael, etc? Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-14742726368855945752014-07-11T21:07:55.685+01:002014-07-11T21:07:55.685+01:00James,
As you please - but I had already rather...James,<br /><br /> As you please - but I had already rather grasped that point. My only comment was that I found the result interesting. More than that I do not choose to discuss in this place. John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-5394001627260392402014-07-11T21:01:36.621+01:002014-07-11T21:01:36.621+01:00Talking abt filming this is guidance from Local Go...Talking abt filming this is guidance from Local Govt office<br /><br />Can I film the meeting?<br />Council meetings are public meetings. Elected representatives and council officers acting in the public sphere should expect to be held to account for their comments and votes in such meetings. The rules require councils to provide reasonable facilities for any member of the public to report on meetings. Councils should thus allow the filming of councillors and officers at meetings that are open to the public.<br />The Data Protection Act does not prohibit such overt filming of public meetings. Councils may reasonably ask for the filming to be undertaken in such a way that it is not disruptive or distracting to the good order and conduct of the meeting. As a courtesy, attendees should be informed at the start of the meeting that it is being filmed; we recommend that those wanting to film liaise with council staff before the start of the meeting.<br />The council should consider adopting a policy on the filming of members of the public speaking at a meeting, such as allowing those who actively object to being filmed not to be filmed, without undermining the broader transparency of the meeting<br /><br />https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/207528/Your_councils_cabinet_-_going_to_its_meetings_seeing_how_it_works.pdfGod help ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726756701964575422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-2703971795701833542014-07-11T20:23:32.051+01:002014-07-11T20:23:32.051+01:00Its just a continuation of what has been said to d...Its just a continuation of what has been said to date John. Until the options report appears, there's not really more that can be said aside from making a public statement in the Chamber on it as has now been done.Not knocking it as its typical, but its not really that big a deal.James Maskellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441611588943798565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-80390618488691375862014-07-11T14:36:26.518+01:002014-07-11T14:36:26.518+01:00Purp,
And what is truth? Is your truth the same ...Purp,<br /><br /> And what is truth? Is your truth the same as mine?John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-78035551560260798752014-07-11T14:02:25.979+01:002014-07-11T14:02:25.979+01:00If someone tell the truth I dont care if its what ...If someone tell the truth I dont care if its what I want to hear or not I will respect them for their honesty. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-4945269788835233262014-07-11T13:26:54.847+01:002014-07-11T13:26:54.847+01:00Michael, Or by the same token everyone's frien...Michael, Or by the same token everyone's friend?John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-49035807217166887732014-07-11T13:13:41.809+01:002014-07-11T13:13:41.809+01:00Om I think it important to understand that because...Om I think it important to understand that because of the prominence of this blog I do my best to be as impartial as possible and to give both sides of any local opinion. In many ways this makes one everyone’s enemy I suppose. Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-54976682527595996682014-07-11T12:55:21.779+01:002014-07-11T12:55:21.779+01:00The folowing is a clear notice of intent:
Full ...The folowing is a clear notice of intent:<br /><br /> Full notice of motion: “Council affirms its considerable disappointment at the recent closure of Manston as a regional airport. We recognise the public support for its continuation as an airport and endorse the steps taken to date towards that objective. Council urges all available options to that end be explored, including a detailed examination of the legal and financial implications of a Compulsory Purchase Order before a final decision is reached.”John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-73263345621426480102014-07-11T10:36:41.660+01:002014-07-11T10:36:41.660+01:00Any CPO compensation is based on the market value ...Any CPO compensation is based on the market value of the land and on the basis of that value not being compromised or inflated by the proposed use of the land following CPO. So Ann Gloag is sitting on a brownfield site with development potential (given that the value has to be based on what it is rather than what it was or what some would have it be) and therefore it is worth millions. Concerned of Ramsgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465592350904836988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-16463941370538763782014-07-11T08:34:00.418+01:002014-07-11T08:34:00.418+01:00This is intersting:
http://thanet.gov.uk/the-thane...This is intersting:<br />http://thanet.gov.uk/the-thanet-magazine/press-releases/2014/july/manston-discussion-full-council/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterJohn Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-25560454933194903522014-07-11T01:17:44.001+01:002014-07-11T01:17:44.001+01:00Thanks Neil, I think Michael is in favour of Manst...Thanks Neil, I think Michael is in favour of Manston so what ever he put on the SMA site must of been good for them as they dont take kindly to anything bad said about their beloved airport some said on there the other day that the CPO did not stand a chance and explained why (all true) and they threw her out.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-38275811354122491292014-07-10T23:33:29.521+01:002014-07-10T23:33:29.521+01:00He decided to start filming again once all the Man...He decided to start filming again once all the Manston parts had been dealt with, and wouldn't stop when asked to. Long running issue, I believe and I am sure Michael will probably post on here what he put on the SMA group tonight about the details about central government guidance.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04204664855401150207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-65564428989973644752014-07-10T22:52:37.944+01:002014-07-10T22:52:37.944+01:00On what grounds was he ejected? and does anybody h...On what grounds was he ejected? and does anybody have any other info?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-50482376881751354902014-07-10T22:08:03.176+01:002014-07-10T22:08:03.176+01:00The readers will decide Neil.
Yet again a manston ...The readers will decide Neil.<br />Yet again a manston supporter that don't want to hear the truth when will the penny dropAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-87434495279803063572014-07-10T22:06:25.405+01:002014-07-10T22:06:25.405+01:00Cllr Driver was ejected from the meeting by police...Cllr Driver was ejected from the meeting by police. He tried to film his own arrest. The meeting was suspended for a while.Still Even More Bemused Of Birchingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01378876660344475835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-43546311469259072332014-07-10T22:05:27.550+01:002014-07-10T22:05:27.550+01:00Neil see above also 2031 is a myth there are no co...Neil see above also 2031 is a myth there are no covenants on that land. there has been a plan for the north part already. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-34689503710438115192014-07-10T22:00:20.775+01:002014-07-10T22:00:20.775+01:00Does anybody know what happened at the meeting ton...Does anybody know what happened at the meeting tonight? Were SMA told they dont stand a chance of a CPO? I bet not unless there was a good number of police there <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312167131325466700noreply@blogger.com