tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post2082231100296310832..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: Occupy Thanet, The Turner Contemporary, You Can’t Always Say What You Want.Michael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-27266504186319916902012-02-05T10:03:53.240+00:002012-02-05T10:03:53.240+00:00Anonymous said...
"John Hoyler, if you are so...Anonymous said...<br />"John Hoyler, if you are so curious as to why they are there then why don't you go down and talk to them yourself? you seem to be asking a lot of questions as to why they are there and their intentions. yes I have been to see them and yes I have talked to them and understand what they are trying to do. I don't see why you are asking me though to answer your queries, I cannot speak for the group that are there. Sadly, i think from your previous posts on this blog that you are extremely dismissive but then again maybe you like seeing the continuing decline of Margate. I'm not going to get into a debate with you however, I can already tell we are poles apart in our views.<br /><br />February 05, 2012 2:25 AM"<br /><br />In other words you do not know what it's all about. Your suggestion that the Turner encampment will rescue Margate is risible. I fear that your assumptions about me merely massage your own prejudices.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-9112515485354205512012-02-05T09:21:25.557+00:002012-02-05T09:21:25.557+00:00Maybe they're NIMBYs within tent!Maybe they're NIMBYs within tent!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-73466264740230982082012-02-05T09:15:49.866+00:002012-02-05T09:15:49.866+00:00So, what answers have the protesters come up with ...So, what answers have the protesters come up with for Thanet? Or are they just outdoor NIMBYs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-50846163329214714482012-02-05T02:25:29.714+00:002012-02-05T02:25:29.714+00:00John Hoyler, if you are so curious as to why they ...John Hoyler, if you are so curious as to why they are there then why don't you go down and talk to them yourself? you seem to be asking a lot of questions as to why they are there and their intentions. yes I have been to see them and yes I have talked to them and understand what they are trying to do. I don't see why you are asking me though to answer your queries, I cannot speak for the group that are there. Sadly, i think from your previous posts on this blog that you are extremely dismissive but then again maybe you like seeing the continuing decline of Margate. I'm not going to get into a debate with you however, I can already tell we are poles apart in our views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-76450729758616409512012-02-05T01:44:25.632+00:002012-02-05T01:44:25.632+00:00An anonymous has said, "Finally, it is pretty...An anonymous has said, "Finally, it is pretty sad the comments about going down there to pick up girls, really sad, get a life!<br /><br />February 04, 2012 11:11 PM"<br /><br /> I am sorry that I have made you really sad. But cheer up, go back and read my blog. I said, "I had a good friend who used to go on CND marches for the sole reason that it was a good place to pick up girls." I made no mention of the Turner encampment. I have no idea why they are there and I suspect neither do they. But you know because you have been down there to talk to them. What did they say? What are their hopes, fears and expectations? Importantly, do they have any solutions? <br /><br />You admonish me to get a life. Maybe I will, - but certainly not from the same place that you got yours.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-27284497560535283642012-02-05T01:26:30.038+00:002012-02-05T01:26:30.038+00:00"John Holyer, I would love to know what is go..."John Holyer, I would love to know what is good fun camping in arctic conditions and the protest is certainly not self indulgent, I take it you have actually gone and spoken to the people there? It is funny how people who are a difference from the usual apathetic thanetians are derided, at least they are TRYING to do something about the world, what have you done lately?<br /><br />February 04, 2012 8:02 PM"<br /><br />Anonymous, Presumably you have done something lately.<br /><br />Also, anonymous, if you think that by sitting on the seafront at Margate they will change the world, then your imagination is admirable.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-50896155278049511742012-02-05T01:18:34.669+00:002012-02-05T01:18:34.669+00:00I support them and admire their courage wholeheart...I support them and admire their courage wholeheartedly - we need more discussion of why there is such rampant inequality in our world - and in Thanet in particular.<br />Christine Tongue<br /><br />February 04, 2012 10:07 PM<br /><br />I take your point, Christine. Why do you personally think that there is "such rampant inequality in our world"? I would value your opinion on this, and would be eager to hear how we might redress this imbalance.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-33532001583783490802012-02-05T01:14:05.527+00:002012-02-05T01:14:05.527+00:00Anonymous said...
Have you ever wondered why there...Anonymous said...<br />Have you ever wondered why there would be people camping on the seafront in freezing temperatures? Have you ever wondered why there are so many people on benefits in Thanet? Do you know their story? Have you walked a day in their shoes? Go down and talk to them and then make your judgements. Thankfully it's not yet illegal to have an opinion.<br /><br />February 04, 2012 8:24 PM<br /><br />This is interesting, Anonymous. Presumably you have been down there to talk to them. What did they have to say?John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-2673863787856256682012-02-04T23:44:23.207+00:002012-02-04T23:44:23.207+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-47865252914658570612012-02-04T23:11:29.078+00:002012-02-04T23:11:29.078+00:00People say it is pointless to protest down there? ...People say it is pointless to protest down there? Well in the past week, the press have spent the night, thanet councillors have visited and talked to them. This is the sort of exposure they wouldn't be able to get if they were not there! How many of the people here who are mocking them have been down and talked to them? none I would imagine. I have talked to them and they are a varied group of people, some have full time jobs and stay the night there. I am sick of people assuming they are all unemployed layabouts, at least they are trying to express their views and I for one fully support what they are doing. Finally, it is pretty sad the comments about going down there to pick up girls, really sad, get a life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-78471270571453649742012-02-04T22:15:41.206+00:002012-02-04T22:15:41.206+00:00They should start a blog. It's warmer and mor...They should start a blog. It's warmer and more people take notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-89943754120404084232012-02-04T22:07:40.670+00:002012-02-04T22:07:40.670+00:00I support them and admire their courage wholeheart...I support them and admire their courage wholeheartedly - we need more discussion of why there is such rampant inequality in our world - and in Thanet in particular.<br />Christine TongueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-74856239090735590052012-02-04T20:24:09.297+00:002012-02-04T20:24:09.297+00:00Have you ever wondered why there would be people c...Have you ever wondered why there would be people camping on the seafront in freezing temperatures? Have you ever wondered why there are so many people on benefits in Thanet? Do you know their story? Have you walked a day in their shoes? Go down and talk to them and then make your judgements. Thankfully it's not yet illegal to have an opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-82652695722454837052012-02-04T20:15:48.226+00:002012-02-04T20:15:48.226+00:00I hope none of these are unemployed and on benefit...I hope none of these are unemployed and on benefits. Sat there they aren't jobhunting so should not be getting benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-40661626940586721002012-02-04T20:02:04.329+00:002012-02-04T20:02:04.329+00:00John Holyer, I would love to know what is good fun...John Holyer, I would love to know what is good fun camping in arctic conditions and the protest is certainly not self indulgent, I take it you have actually gone and spoken to the people there? It is funny how people who are a difference from the usual apathetic thanetians are derided, at least they are TRYING to do something about the world, what have you done lately?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-83730137397130017562012-02-03T11:49:58.967+00:002012-02-03T11:49:58.967+00:00The only thing that the Turner Center and The prot...The only thing that the Turner Center and The protesters have in common is that they are both 100% irrelevant and pointless.<br />The gallery is no more than a bad joke that has cost an absolute fortune and will continue to do so for years to come.<br />The protest also no more than a joke, how does sitting in a tent in any way shape or form change policy, direction or the political will of parliament, utter stupidity and frankly giving these people the time of day is time wasted that you will never get back.<br /><br />Regeneration, don't make me laugh, more like pushing money to insignificant minority groups to forward theirpleasure in utter rubbish. Protencious rubbish that has no place in todays world.StevePnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-17135670083114129572012-02-03T00:03:42.535+00:002012-02-03T00:03:42.535+00:00Peter,
I am sure you stand a chance. Some heavy l...Peter,<br /><br />I am sure you stand a chance. Some heavy listening, flattery and a camera could do the trick.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-27747731728235456842012-02-02T23:59:24.526+00:002012-02-02T23:59:24.526+00:00Do you think if it will increase my chances of pic...Do you think if it will increase my chances of picking up women if I join the Margate protesters? This could be the thing to persuade me. ; )Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-78007627087743881642012-02-02T23:55:53.909+00:002012-02-02T23:55:53.909+00:00Michael,
I had a good friend who used to go on CN...Michael,<br /> I had a good friend who used to go on CND marches for the sole reason that it was a good place to pick up girls. I expect this has coloured my opinion.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-13244295820663172392012-02-02T23:26:36.921+00:002012-02-02T23:26:36.921+00:00Which was more interesting - the tent people outsi...Which was more interesting - the tent people outside or the exhibition? <br /><br />Great to see the recent Granville pictures on your blog.<br /><br />Ben KellyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-52458253185854726752012-02-02T20:39:36.642+00:002012-02-02T20:39:36.642+00:00John, complex this sort of thing, I got involved i...John, complex this sort of thing, I got involved in various protests myself about forty years ago, and I suppose there is a sense of this, some people involved will be like you just said, some won’t.<br /><br />Essentially though the problems of 1% of the population controlling most of the wealth, the banks gambling with money, and so n are real. The Margate High Street problem is also very real and the long term implications of everyone having to make some sort of environmentally much more damaging journey for shopping and leisure than would be the case if the people living in the town had the facilities in the town.Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-83009211207785861412012-02-02T20:12:10.134+00:002012-02-02T20:12:10.134+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-19693156892013162182012-02-02T20:11:55.823+00:002012-02-02T20:11:55.823+00:00Nothing to worry about, Michael. The Protesters th...Nothing to worry about, Michael. The Protesters themselves do not really know why they are there. It's a piece of self indulgence and good fun.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.com