tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post3684830212332252716..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: Thanet District Council asks us how to spend our money or do they?Michael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-40918787470855038922012-11-07T20:00:20.064+00:002012-11-07T20:00:20.064+00:00its really very nice post to read as i like the wa...<br />its really very nice post to read as i like the way you wrote it thnaks for posting ...<br />as am doing home business and earning more income to fulfill my needs and to secure my future i just joined to GDI Global Domains International and started earning without any investment for more info go to <b>freedom.ws/webincome5</b> and use username <b>webincome5</b> as access code to see the presentation.working from home opportunitieshttp://www.freedom.ws/webincome5noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-33013432579073800192012-11-01T23:33:35.872+00:002012-11-01T23:33:35.872+00:00Who actually quantifies the savings, I know when t...Who actually quantifies the savings, I know when they set up the customer service centre in the library at margate they didn't take into account saturday openning and an extra £75K a year ad infinitum had to be found in the budget.....whoops thats the £ million pound saving over the next 12 years gone west.<br />New windows oops another million we weren't expecting to spend. <br />local councils unfortunately are generally run for the benefit of the senior managers who work thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-29439945133531414492012-11-01T20:25:12.528+00:002012-11-01T20:25:12.528+00:00where does the port and harbour come in all this ?...where does the port and harbour come in all this ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-84486738835185262022012-11-01T11:30:14.911+00:002012-11-01T11:30:14.911+00:00Bit of a worry when Council Officer (not TDC but d...Bit of a worry when Council Officer (not TDC but doesn't say where) states "set up by several (but difficult to know exactly which for any given service) councils". If it's not known which councils are involved how can we possibly know what the savings are ??? Sounds very strange.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-72012389493307240302012-11-01T07:12:01.784+00:002012-11-01T07:12:01.784+00:004.24pm, especially when you look at the services p...4.24pm, especially when you look at the services paid for each monthly in the council spend data, on TDC's website. If it was your own business and you contracted out services, you would expect to see a reduction in your biggest expense. People. An interesting comparison would be Thanet population, TDC services and TDC staff over the last 30 years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-18770836709750652002012-10-31T16:24:32.225+00:002012-10-31T16:24:32.225+00:00Fair points to discuss Council Officer - but where...Fair points to discuss Council Officer - but where are the FOI of salaries and expenses etc then we can discuss one dept versus another, savings etc with the real and specific costs?<br /><br />Depts don't always need a straight line reduction as you mention: accountants etc can be shared, or contracted out as you say.<br /><br />750 officials and £60M seems a lot for one of Britain's worst councils to continue to underperform?<br /><br />Similarly EK Shared Services don't seem to have reduced costs (for repairing council houses?) and the supervision by councillors is blurred. It's not a company but a tax-quango/dept.<br /><br />But FOI would detail all that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-11950557534254689862012-10-31T16:11:40.782+00:002012-10-31T16:11:40.782+00:00So Council Officer do TDC use contracted staff tha...So Council Officer do TDC use contracted staff that are paid via their own limited service company to allow them to take their pay as 20% taxed dividends rather that paying the full tax and NI? If so its not allowed unless the person is actually takinga business risk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-41568259146285951502012-10-31T13:29:29.118+00:002012-10-31T13:29:29.118+00:00Ok, just to jump in - as a council person (but not...Ok, just to jump in - as a council person (but not TDC) - EK Services is Donna Reed's domain. It is the arms length company set up by several (but difficult to know exactly which for any given service) councils a couple of years back. To answer 8:46. It has made savings, substaintial savings at that. It had to quantify those before anything was allowed to become a shared service. And as our belts tighten, it is having to do that again (jusst like the rest of us). As such, they have to find savings regardless of whether you like them or not!<br /><br />As for the support services cost. This is all those 'back office' functions the council has to make it run - finance, CX, comms, etc (different for each council I might add). And to be fair, its pretty pointless having a choice over these. If you want less money spent on cleaning, then the amount of support costs to that service reduce in line with the savings made. In the same vein, if you pile the money into culture (please do!) then those costs will increase. The only way those costs go down substaintially is if you create more shared services - 8:46 may keel over though - or you cut everything else.<br /><br />And before the nay sayers arrive with the 'dont need bloody accountants' etc etc. of course we do, the same as any business does. The right question might be do we need employed or contracted X, but no-one has asked that, have they...Council Officer - not on £1k a week!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-35938245373416971382012-10-31T08:46:47.831+00:002012-10-31T08:46:47.831+00:00Services provided by East Kent Services (revenues ...Services provided by East Kent Services (revenues and benefits, customer services and ICT) - this is the so called shared service or Donna Reed's vanity project. Shared service is supposed to save money so how come it's the 2nd highest cost in the table ?? Bet it hasn't delivered on the promised savings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-52701815149388925652012-10-31T08:38:29.230+00:002012-10-31T08:38:29.230+00:00TEC statement of accounts for 2011-2012 shows 29.TEC statement of accounts for 2011-2012 shows 29.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-27973254306870398702012-10-30T23:25:43.881+00:002012-10-30T23:25:43.881+00:00Are there many TDC officers earning over 1,000 GBP...Are there many TDC officers earning over 1,000 GBP`s a week?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-27810116272568394642012-10-30T17:52:14.184+00:002012-10-30T17:52:14.184+00:00So where does the capital cost and running dosts o...So where does the capital cost and running dosts of Dreamland come into this? £600k plus already spent on purchasing rides and no doubt tidy sum spend on the CPO, maybe thats a chunch of one of your "red" items.<br />To me it looks like a gamble that we cannot finance at this point in time, Maybe the site owner should be allowed to come up with the goods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com