tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post4306421802246544072..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: Margate and the Turner Contemporary April Fool.Michael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-46176473267322208342010-02-09T16:05:17.084+00:002010-02-09T16:05:17.084+00:00I forgot about that video, over 300 views in under...I forgot about that video, over 300 views in under two weeks isn't bad. I've just written a <a href="http://nakedinthanet.blogspot.com/2010/02/do-you-want-to-sponsor-naked-in-thanet.html" rel="nofollow">Blog Post</a> about my frustrations at trying to get a little funding for what is after all one of the more popular Thanet-based art projects.Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-2158730810339182532010-02-09T14:48:55.331+00:002010-02-09T14:48:55.331+00:00Sorry Don meant to say, don’t think you can.
Well...Sorry Don meant to say, don’t think you can.<br /><br />Well Peter I noticed you put some videos on youtube in the last couple of weeks <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/peterdchecksfield" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/peterdchecksfield</a> and they have all got considerably more viewings than the one about walking around the bathing pool.<br /><br />So perhaps this is about some form of elitism, by that I mean that unless your work appeals to an elite enough – small enough – minority you won’t get grant funding for it.Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-15769877999227219042010-02-09T14:14:43.547+00:002010-02-09T14:14:43.547+00:00Their response is an improvement to the last time ...Their response is an improvement to the last time I wrote to them about two years ago, as back then they didn't even bother replying.<br /><br />I don't have visitor numbers for my website, but there's a (public) record for how many times each photo has been viewed, & some of these number over 15,000 in 2 & 1/2 years.Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-40226659164475650442010-02-09T13:44:34.159+00:002010-02-09T13:44:34.159+00:00I think the thing that struck me the most about th...I think the thing that struck me the most about this is the general lack of interest in the art projects that they are actually engaged in, normally the people engaged in this sort of thing are very reluctant to release any statistics, no counter for instance on the Turner Contemporary’s website <a href="http://www.turnercontemporary.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.turnercontemporary.co.uk/</a><br /><br />However the Hamish Fulton Kent Walk page on their website <a href="http://www.turnercontemporary.co.uk/whatson/?p=153" rel="nofollow">http://www.turnercontemporary.co.uk/whatson/?p=153</a> does have a link to the video about it and the site where the video <a href="http://vimeo.com/8935523" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/8935523</a> is hosted does have a counter.<br /><br />From my own web statistics I can tell 259 people looked at this blog yesterday and from the site where the video is hosted 28 of them actually watched the video, this may not sound a lot but compared to the number of people who watched it by clicking on the link on the Turner Contemporary’s site it is a colossal amount.<br /><br />Assuming that some of the traffic came from elsewhere search engines, the people who put the video up and the artist it would seem unlikely that the link on the gallery’s website is generating more than one visitor a day.<br /><br />Don just a thought here I don’t think you can’t really use the Tate St Ives for comparison, the whole situation both with the town and the gallery is completely different.<br /><br />This is really about organisations set up with huge public funding to regenerate places with problems like Margate trying to give them solutions appropriate to other towns.<br /><br />Peter every local artist I know of that has tried has had a similar response.Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-35537190752235996062010-02-09T13:38:06.782+00:002010-02-09T13:38:06.782+00:00I wrote to them last night requesting funding for ...I wrote to them last night requesting funding for Naked in Thanet, & got a lengthy & polite response this morning! They said "No", but the fact that they bothered replying was very gratifying, & I wish them lots of good luck for the future (they're probably going to need it...).Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-39662223102783744472010-02-09T11:50:15.620+00:002010-02-09T11:50:15.620+00:00You shouldn't call TDc fools they made £7,500 ...You shouldn't call TDc fools they made £7,500 by not passing on the VAT reductions that were put in place by the government to encourage the economy. TDC finance department knows better than the chancellor and feels quite happy gainsaying the elected government.<br /><br /> Thank you for your communication received on 18/01/2010 where you requested information about the cost to Thanet District Council of not passing on the VAT increase <br />The cost to the Council of not passing on the VAT increase for this period is estimated to be £21.5k. However, as most of the Council's charges are shown as being inclusive of VAT, the previous reduction in VAT rate from 17.5% to 15% was also not passed on which saved the Council £29k. The net effect of the VAT changes is therefore a saving to the Council of £7.5k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-23056252331133510962010-02-09T10:37:08.511+00:002010-02-09T10:37:08.511+00:00Never in the field of Thanet conflict have so many...Never in the field of Thanet conflict have so many been fooled by so few for so long.<br />Stargazer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-89041759233340044922010-02-08T23:38:34.702+00:002010-02-08T23:38:34.702+00:00I like the headline but you should replace " ...I like the headline but you should replace " turner contemporary april" with Thanet District Council which would nicely give you "Margate and the Thanet District Council Fools."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-75569072212919538442010-02-08T23:35:56.239+00:002010-02-08T23:35:56.239+00:00Well seeing we have had a director of the gallery ...Well seeing we have had a director of the gallery for the last 10 years I am sure the problem is covered. There are probably hoards of people waiting to zip over the channel on the Euro ferries fast craft once the gallery is open.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-42935637472545585992010-02-08T21:22:08.146+00:002010-02-08T21:22:08.146+00:00I'm looking for sponsorship for my blog too. A...I'm looking for sponsorship for my blog too. At £64 a visit, I could be looking at around £40K a day!Richard Eastcliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10514972891192411470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-77795785598124235782010-02-08T20:39:23.322+00:002010-02-08T20:39:23.322+00:00Wow! These group walks are fantastic art. I guess ...Wow! These group walks are fantastic art. I guess I must be an artist because I went for a a walk with my family last weekend!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-17552365915411438462010-02-08T20:33:41.792+00:002010-02-08T20:33:41.792+00:00Better still, turn it into a public toilet. It wil...Better still, turn it into a public toilet. It will soon be unique in the area and will attract visitors from all over Thanet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-5394370533569387532010-02-08T20:02:42.048+00:002010-02-08T20:02:42.048+00:00Here's a thought, once the Turner Centre has p...Here's a thought, once the Turner Centre has proved to be a money pit and can no longer be sustained through KCC or local TDC funding, it could be converted into a Sea Life centre - Brighton's Sea Life centre attracts over 250,000 visitors a year...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-53672236904478442282010-02-08T16:56:44.535+00:002010-02-08T16:56:44.535+00:00Tate St Ives is not lacking a source for its exhib...Tate St Ives is not lacking a source for its exhibits nor other attractions in the area like the Eden project.<br /><br />Tate St Ives entrance fee Only £5.75 £3.25 concessionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-56877816112979974242010-02-08T16:36:38.903+00:002010-02-08T16:36:38.903+00:00Michael I as you know am very pro the gallery and ...Michael I as you know am very pro the gallery and I too am sceptical of the figure, but having looked on google for tate st ives visitor figure came up with if my math is correct:- 549 per day for first ten years which was roughly double the estimated figures. http://www.tate.org.uk/about/pressoffice/pressreleases/stiveslookstofuture_30-04-04.htm I hope its a success and given those sort of figures cant see why it wont be. I know we are living in a different financial world from when these figures were released but all I will say is have you ever been to Saint Ives?Don Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099505939055955603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-29591089022452302082010-02-08T16:36:12.080+00:002010-02-08T16:36:12.080+00:00I don't see the lack of a direct fast train li...I don't see the lack of a direct fast train link as much of an issue as I don't think it's going to attract many Londoners anyway (they have bigger & better art galleries there!). But it's beyond belief that so much money is being ploughed into this when visitor information centres & public toilets are closing down.Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-2571679930561817392010-02-08T15:49:46.774+00:002010-02-08T15:49:46.774+00:00I agree, I'm afraid to say that I can't se...I agree, I'm afraid to say that I can't see the volumes of vistors they hope to expect. Firstly, there isn't anything else in Margate, secondly there is still no direct fast train link to Margate and thirdly they are going to have to have some really good exhibitions to attract anything near the numbers they antipicate.<br /><br />It worries me that people with such inexperience are allowed such a large budget!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-17515811758476569072010-02-08T14:29:36.377+00:002010-02-08T14:29:36.377+00:00I'm currently looking for sponsorship for Nake...I'm currently looking for sponsorship for Naked in Thanet, I wonder if it's worth me dropping them a line?Peter Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283534498743254609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-47920653760742392552010-02-08T14:07:29.378+00:002010-02-08T14:07:29.378+00:00One things for sure, neither TDC or KCC will tell ...One things for sure, neither TDC or KCC will tell you how many visitors they are getting. They will wheel out the "commercially sensitive" excuse. Send in your FOI now to give them time to prepare!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-20830580343645790712010-02-08T14:02:11.612+00:002010-02-08T14:02:11.612+00:00Hopefully it won't just be art but also some d...Hopefully it won't just be art but also some displays of local history or maritime objects like the coins and other objects Beachcomber Tony collects everywhere. These would be of more interest to local people especially if the museum remains closedConcerned residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-47943741050991645062010-02-08T13:48:39.321+00:002010-02-08T13:48:39.321+00:00you have got to take in account that in the winter...you have got to take in account that in the winter they will be lucky to get 10 visitors a day,i suppose that some schools will try visiting at least once a year just in case they do get something worth looking at,but i am not holding my breath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-61164952242666040542010-02-08T12:41:55.904+00:002010-02-08T12:41:55.904+00:00I can't see them attracting that many visitors...I can't see them attracting that many visitors specifically to the gallery, but I'l ltake another viewpoint here and say that if it attracts people to the gallery <b>and</b> the town with the possibility of kick-starting Margate then it will be worth the money.<br /><br />It's worth noting that this isn't my actual view but I decided to be optimistic and hope for the best in this post.Ademhttp://ademdjemil.co.uk/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-13002761923762253062010-02-08T12:39:15.734+00:002010-02-08T12:39:15.734+00:00Like you I a concerned and think there are better ...Like you I a concerned and think there are better ways we could spend our money, good spot, hope soeone can clarify. I think the projected visitors are wildly optimistic.Son of Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019533493432411653noreply@blogger.com