tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post5204791187862976018..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: Granville House Ramsgate, New Planning Application.Michael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-43866788344647449712013-06-24T13:25:14.477+01:002013-06-24T13:25:14.477+01:00I have seen from ukPlanning.com that the plans hav...I have seen from ukPlanning.com that the plans have been passed. It would have been nice to see something with a nod to Mr Pugin but,time moves on. I'm not keen on what they are doing but, the plot has been derelict for so long it needed something done. It would seem not enough people objected to the plan so it was passed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-58443402686899095262013-02-11T20:06:20.863+00:002013-02-11T20:06:20.863+00:00yes michael your right but the back of granville h...yes michael your right but the back of granville house is an eye soreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-43358419951779941802013-02-11T17:54:21.111+00:002013-02-11T17:54:21.111+00:00You have got very confused here 4.58 the bomb was ...You have got very confused here 4.58 the bomb was the front bit that has been rebuilt, the back was the result of a fairly recent demolition as shown in the picture above. Perhaps you will concede that demolishing part of a listed building albeit with the consent of the council can be a bad ideaMichael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-80844293054819808412013-02-11T17:39:19.601+00:002013-02-11T17:39:19.601+00:00anonymous February 11 4:35, 4:54 & 4:58
Your ...anonymous February 11 4:35, 4:54 & 4:58<br /><br />Your comments have been an immense contribution to the debate on this subjectJohn Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-61523232092400320812013-02-11T16:58:25.345+00:002013-02-11T16:58:25.345+00:00the back of the granville still the same from when...the back of the granville still the same from when the bomb was droptedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-77747187838427718242013-02-11T16:54:50.140+00:002013-02-11T16:54:50.140+00:00you lot must have sad and lonely lifesyou lot must have sad and lonely lifesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-37364842068512005102013-02-11T16:35:33.911+00:002013-02-11T16:35:33.911+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-74328702262068682892013-02-11T16:25:36.032+00:002013-02-11T16:25:36.032+00:00watever they do ittle be better than looking at a ...watever they do ittle be better than looking at a hole in the ground go and moan about somthingk else wate a sad bunch of people little tirantsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-32460570685364298892013-02-02T18:51:11.018+00:002013-02-02T18:51:11.018+00:00Pat I think that perhaps an absence of decoration ...Pat I think that perhaps an absence of decoration should be grounds for a planning objection, I know a few twiddley bits on a building cost a bit more, but one does need somewhere to rest the eye. <br /><br />But yes get on your high horse and do what I am going to do which is object to the plans because they are not in keeping with the rest of the Victorian structure, lets hope some of the other commentators do too. <br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-4305216569741808162013-02-02T17:45:30.232+00:002013-02-02T17:45:30.232+00:00As the application is evidently just for outline ...As the application is evidently just for outline permission the facades will be subject to any planning requirements and quite likely be a little different to the initial options proposed by the developer. At least they give an indication of their thinking.<br />Personaly I hope there will be an improvement on the current design...a little bland for my taste, and the flats end up being occupied by outsiders willing to spend their income in Ramsgate oh and pay a good slice of Council Tax too. Ramsgate needs people with money to spend. A cash strapped council,a DHSS economy and its downhill all the way.<br />Sorry Michael I've drifted slightly off topic...high horse and all that.Pat Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-10545670371780839362013-02-01T15:59:03.920+00:002013-02-01T15:59:03.920+00:00True, Clague have good conservation credentials - ...True, Clague have good conservation credentials - but those designs all stink. Since we won't get an iconic modern building sadly (and which many people would probably hate) we ought to press for compatible materials (i.e. proper yellow london brick, not that ghastly 80's plasti-brickwork, lime mortar etc) and decorative details identical to the Pugin - as some one said, if the land is only costing £4,200 per flat, there's plenty of money for high quality materials, a decent design - and maybe even a couple of levels of underground carpark!Schmoozyschlepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11056416598803334346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-9795795174164407162013-02-01T14:14:31.170+00:002013-02-01T14:14:31.170+00:00What are you, "just saying"? If you do n...What are you, "just saying"? If you do not mean what you say then you should say so. Or are you apologising for commenting?Zip Hydroboilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-62190355274395951852013-02-01T13:04:29.738+00:002013-02-01T13:04:29.738+00:00All this said, the architects, Canterbury-based Cl...All this said, the architects, Canterbury-based Clague, are pretty respectable and have been responsible for quite good developments (IMO) at the Horsebridge in Whitstable and The Tannery in Canterbury. Just saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-88425952831093643912013-02-01T12:43:36.628+00:002013-02-01T12:43:36.628+00:00It will eclipse the benefits of sunlight on the ex...It will eclipse the benefits of sunlight on the existing houses and for some residents already living in the Granville. There is car parking saturation at night already in this area - this will get worse. This design is city planning not for a small seside town. It neither respects the building it is part of or the low rise dwellings nearby. It is cheap and designed to create maximum return for the property developers and return in council tax for TDC. More greedy bastards!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01600708780834419647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-87422150660211708362013-02-01T11:48:32.433+00:002013-02-01T11:48:32.433+00:00I agree. I wouldn't want to see a Prince Charl...I agree. I wouldn't want to see a Prince Charles-inspired (inspired?!) pastiche here, but I would like to see more effort on the part of the developer. A better design, better materials, more thought. And I would put in a plea for it to be no taller than what was there before. Currently it's at least a couple of floors higher. A man-made, New York style canyon is not what we need round here - it's windy enough already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-5416215773841471452013-02-01T00:28:23.264+00:002013-02-01T00:28:23.264+00:00Anonymous 12:00AM,
I for one was not suggesting a...Anonymous 12:00AM,<br /><br />I for one was not suggesting a pastiche or a mock design. The expression I would use is, in the style of. Which is something quite different; and which would become apparent if you took a stroll around the London Docklands. Docklands contains some fine modern architecture which is in keeping with what went before.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-70566589825961864232013-02-01T00:00:15.277+00:002013-02-01T00:00:15.277+00:00I really think that making a pastiche of the old b...I really think that making a pastiche of the old building would be pretty dire. Mock buildings are tacky. However the new drawings are pretty mediocre. There is an opportunity to make a rather fine contemporary addition to this building, but I feel this isn't quite there get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-56581524095758495852013-01-31T11:00:32.325+00:002013-01-31T11:00:32.325+00:00Popped out of Mrs Pugin along with a scale model o...Popped out of Mrs Pugin along with a scale model of the Granville and several ecclesiastical buildings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-47735468125390789792013-01-31T10:56:13.291+00:002013-01-31T10:56:13.291+00:00At -4 he was already a prolific architectural geni...At -4 he was already a prolific architectural genius!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-75540034837338236742013-01-31T10:52:59.382+00:002013-01-31T10:52:59.382+00:00Oh yes. He was a bit a of a whizz with his Lego, t...Oh yes. He was a bit a of a whizz with his Lego, that Pugin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-29911666628446167422013-01-30T20:15:55.316+00:002013-01-30T20:15:55.316+00:00“English Heritage experience whilst undertaking Gr...“English Heritage experience whilst undertaking Grade II building reinstatement (E.W. Pugin Architecture Circa 1830)”Aan interesting notion this 5.01, E.W. Pugin was born in 1834 making me especially interested in the buildings he designed around 1830.Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-52245694147150603522013-01-30T19:02:46.420+00:002013-01-30T19:02:46.420+00:00Re: price of £160,000.
That's sounds pretty l...Re: price of £160,000.<br /><br />That's sounds pretty low to me for a plot of that size. This would work out at a land cost of about £4,200 per flat.<br /><br />Given the bargain price the developer appears to have got the land for, there should be scope for a high quality design to match the Granville Court re-build at the front :-).Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-57520915115192034552013-01-30T19:02:23.932+00:002013-01-30T19:02:23.932+00:00Carbuncle is right- time for a proper conservation...Carbuncle is right- time for a proper conservation area and cancel Pleasurama, Dreamland housing and demolish Arlington.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-41076012723517820302013-01-30T18:28:25.466+00:002013-01-30T18:28:25.466+00:00Anonymous 5:01PM
Thank you. This is interesting.Anonymous 5:01PM<br /><br />Thank you. This is interesting.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-40596906607306279752013-01-30T17:53:50.667+00:002013-01-30T17:53:50.667+00:00Surely Prince Charles would have something to say ...Surely Prince Charles would have something to say about this monstrous carbuncle on the face of a much-loved and elegant, Grade II listed building in a conservation area?!?!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com