tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post1140972952726198930..comments2024-03-13T10:32:22.656+00:00Comments on thanetonline: The Royal Sands Development on the Pleasurama Site in Ramsgate AgainMichael Childhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-37517157315219663122013-01-16T10:04:02.457+00:002013-01-16T10:04:02.457+00:00Yes Michael yer reply to 509 is on the button. Dr...Yes Michael yer reply to 509 is on the button. Draft letters and the like are slippery as eels for fraud or false instrument charges. But the relevance of money laundering awareness may be a fair measure of lack of diligence ? <br /><br />Police involvement in politics is a very sensitive area. They can't even open a gate for a minister without the over political police federation sticking its oar in. But let's not forget that policing by the state was an unlawful political imposition from about 1829. The people refused to call the new police "Constables" and called them "Police soldiers". And an early attempt to kettle a political gathering ended with the killing of a policeman Culley. A 21 man coroners jury unanimously returned a justifiable homicide verdict. So from the outset police affronts to the liberties and freedoms of Englishmen were met with prompt and terminating action.<br /><br />Longer memories will recall one Cllr Hoser who, from time to time, would call for a full Kent Police investigation of his business dealings. That from a chap whose Rolls Royce had a four year out of date tax disc on it. How we laughed at his front. Nice one Cyril. <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> Gypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-4340116407888862792013-01-15T21:12:23.069+00:002013-01-15T21:12:23.069+00:00Busy today so I have only just got to the comments...Busy today so I have only just got to the comments here, block reply I am afraid.<br /><br />2.51 no one can cancel Pleasurama immediately and if they did it is very likely we council taxpayers would be landed with a huge bill for the resulting litigation.<br /><br />The same applies for unfair dismissal and breaking employment law, which you seem to advocating, you seem to wish to set us all to foot a bill of millions.<br /><br />Gypsy Jack at 10.27 I thought it was fairly badly written, ten days is the rule which in council speak means two calendar weeks. <br /><br />11.45 Ian Driver does seem to be doing what most local people have been saying for years they want local councillors to do, I was speaking to the local press today and they seem to approve his actions too.<br /><br />Gypsy Jack at 12.42 my take is the key problems are lack of a flood risk assessment for a new build on a high risk flood zone this would preclude any reasonable development funding and lack of communication from the developer, no website, mock up pictures of how the modified development will look, particularly from the top of the cliff.<br /><br />3.22 saw it and just included it in today’s post.<br /><br />5.09 I think you would have to change the law about BVI companies being banned from projects before any police involvement.<br /><br />In a general sense I believe police involvement in politics is what you get in a police state, there are plenty of these around the world if you fancy trying one out for a while. <br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-52658338387311083752013-01-15T17:09:42.366+00:002013-01-15T17:09:42.366+00:00Very interesting 3:22 - deposits can be refunded t...Very interesting 3:22 - deposits can be refunded though. Separately I suspect the same will happen with KLM flights. <br /><br />On Pleasurama though why haven't BVI etc tax haven/secret companies been banned from projects with public funds already: a preference for UK companies only? A no-brainer.<br /><br />Pleasurama needs cancelling and turfing as an interim measure for the Summer season.<br /><br />Where are the Police?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-79021169848491579932013-01-15T15:22:01.787+00:002013-01-15T15:22:01.787+00:00Pleasurama was on the South East today 13.40 lunch...Pleasurama was on the South East today 13.40 lunch time news (15 jan), so look in at 6.30 tonight if you missed it. A lady was intervied who had paid a £2,000 deposit to local agent T Painter for a second floor appartment. She claims she was told the developer owed the site already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-89153868653247084252013-01-15T15:06:12.263+00:002013-01-15T15:06:12.263+00:00Are you surjesting fingers in pie like 17.43hrs of...Are you surjesting fingers in pie like 17.43hrs of the 14th<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-33395221625294155762013-01-15T15:00:22.303+00:002013-01-15T15:00:22.303+00:00THEY NEVERB HAD ANY INTETION TO BUILD ANY THING ON...THEY NEVERB HAD ANY INTETION TO BUILD ANY THING ON THAT SITE BY IT FOR NEXT TO NOWT SELL IT ON FOR MEGGER BUCKS TDC SILLY DUFFERS TO SLEEPY TO SEE IT COMING OR MAY BE THEY STAND TO GAIN AS INDEVIDUALS WHEN ITS SOLD ON MAKES YOU WONDER.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-63430103537476635352013-01-15T14:51:53.023+00:002013-01-15T14:51:53.023+00:00Well said Anon: McGonigal must go. Excellent work ...Well said Anon: McGonigal must go. Excellent work from Cllr Driver and Michael in raising these points. I'm surprised at Cllr Poole not taking the opportunity to cancel Pleasurama immediately.<br /><br />The Anon/Driver point on council service is a good one too: responses within 10 days, documents in advance, minutes, FOI etc etc. TDC is a shambles with overpaid officials doing as little as possible and nothing to do with democracy.<br /><br />Gross misconduct in failing to work within 10 days etc requires summary sacking and cancellation of pensions. They seem to think it's their money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-26799677658310164862013-01-15T12:42:29.557+00:002013-01-15T12:42:29.557+00:00The blog has featured, in an earlier thread, the P...The blog has featured, in an earlier thread, the Proceeds of Crime Act guidelines used by other councils. IE Suspicions about offshore companies. My opinion is that if someone has the money to launder then they have the money to do a good job ?<br /><br />Yet Michael has been repeatedly vindicated in his questions about structure, planning, access, cliff safety and flood risk.<br /><br />Now the questions are whether the council even ensured the draft letters re finance were genuine. From the outset nearly 11 years ago.<br /><br />The question whether the developer has ever developed anything appears to be answered NO.<br /><br />But the developer appears to have committed TDC to contractual obligations. <br /><br />What is the value of the rights the developer owns on the site ?<br /><br />If someone does buy it and builds the much heralded ice rink, willing to take an annual loss running a leisure facility, bet they don't buy the site from TDC ? They will buy it from the current developer ? <br /><br />If that happens then take yer hat off to Shaun Keegan and Co. Got into a win win situation and not surprisingly emerge as winners ?<br /><br /><br /><br />Gypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-17381017050227951492013-01-15T11:53:05.105+00:002013-01-15T11:53:05.105+00:00what another ten years without an ice rink what a ...what another ten years without an ice rink what a pitty and waste of space just like our so called elected representitives at tdc Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-11694487814917320312013-01-15T11:47:19.136+00:002013-01-15T11:47:19.136+00:00done deal then another ten years of bomb site eyes...done deal then another ten years of bomb site eyesore on the main seafront site Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-75485812053185082002013-01-15T11:45:32.610+00:002013-01-15T11:45:32.610+00:00Maybe its taking a bit of getting used to by the c...Maybe its taking a bit of getting used to by the council officers: the chair of the OSC asking for written replies and documents on an important disposal, if not the most important disposal ever, of Thanets assets. Did the previous occupants of the chair not do that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-41916514064094642792013-01-15T11:08:03.850+00:002013-01-15T11:08:03.850+00:00Anonymous 8:09,
Maybe, maybe; yet you may discove...Anonymous 8:09,<br /><br />Maybe, maybe; yet you may discover that this wolf has teeth. Which probably explains why you choose the hide behind the skirts of anonymity.John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-10999613780248937862013-01-15T11:03:50.298+00:002013-01-15T11:03:50.298+00:00Anonymous 9:16PM,
The fact that Councillor Driver...Anonymous 9:16PM,<br /><br />The fact that Councillor Driver has not received a reply is an egregious omission on the part of the CEO. Your subsequent recommendation has merit, in my opinion. John Holyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284672912775316883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-40471991449972635172013-01-15T10:27:26.790+00:002013-01-15T10:27:26.790+00:00Well written Michael. Good summary. Ten days take...Well written Michael. Good summary. Ten days takes the reply deadline beyond the council meeting date though ? Gypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-38654031560855055122013-01-15T00:01:47.459+00:002013-01-15T00:01:47.459+00:00Elected Chief Executive`s are the way to go!Elected Chief Executive`s are the way to go!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-58924867426871515452013-01-14T23:05:37.223+00:002013-01-14T23:05:37.223+00:00The audacity of this elected councillor; to think ...The audacity of this elected councillor; to think that the mighty Chief Executive has to respond to (let alone be accountable to)him. For many years it has been proposed that the councillors are a waste of space and money because they don't actually run the council. Here we see the full extent of their impotence. Of course, nothing will get done because the other councillors will all sit on their hands and play politics with the issue; anything to get one over on that troublesome Driver. And they wonder why people don't vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-57687539622411469492013-01-14T21:35:33.277+00:002013-01-14T21:35:33.277+00:00Anon, in this instance Ian Driver is writing to th...Anon, in this instance Ian Driver is writing to the chief executive of the council as chair of the council’s scrutiny panel, asking for documentation that the council is obliged by its own constitution to provide him with. <br /><br />You seem to be suggesting that the officers should base their constitutional obligations to elected members on whether those officers have some sort of preference for particular members.<br />Michael Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499435016469020417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-3404613533149232392013-01-14T21:33:53.100+00:002013-01-14T21:33:53.100+00:00me thinks that some people have things to hide per...me thinks that some people have things to hide perhaps fingers in the pie???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-59848791871297775492013-01-14T21:25:15.811+00:002013-01-14T21:25:15.811+00:00I agree in most part Anon 916
The efforts of Cou...I agree in most part Anon 916<br /><br /><br />The efforts of Councilor Driver<br /><br />Fired off emails like a striver<br /><br />But no reply and no reason why<br /><br />Is Silent Sue conniver or skiver ?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Gypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-50729968589230380162013-01-14T21:16:28.329+00:002013-01-14T21:16:28.329+00:00Ian's problem has nothing to do with the earli...Ian's problem has nothing to do with the earlier backbiting comments, but the fact that the senior management team (god help us), don't like anyone rocking their little boat for fear of someone identifying that they are as equally useless as the Members. You can imagine how much influence Poole didn't have with McGonigal and the "several Council officers". She took re-inforcements along because she hasn't the faintest idea either, which is why she hasn't answered Ian and in order that someone else will be to blame when it all goes wrong again later. The officers rely on most Members not knowing what day it is, let alone having the faintest idea of what they are up to behind the scenes. Ian should put down a motion of no confidence in the Chief Executive at the next Scrutiny Meeting for ignoring his emails and not complying with the previous decision in a timely manner. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-85179059847482104782013-01-14T21:12:38.937+00:002013-01-14T21:12:38.937+00:00I don't know if you include me in your latest ...I don't know if you include me in your latest tirade there Anon.<br /><br />But a fella of your apparent erudition might advise, what are the chances I can park my caravan there this summer (a suitable distance from the cliff edge must add). <br /><br />I'd heard there may be a bit of tarmac work there soon. <br /><br />Perhaps working for The Kent Hotel Company Ltd if they are good for the money. Very confusing with all those multiple directorships of Ltd companies of Bill a Ricky (Tinker joke)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Gypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-78990607655249571862013-01-14T20:27:32.100+00:002013-01-14T20:27:32.100+00:00Anyone that does not think Ian Driver is trying to...Anyone that does not think Ian Driver is trying to use his position to forward his personal agenda, is either politically naive, a liar or from another planet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-34832260401984006322013-01-14T20:26:19.298+00:002013-01-14T20:26:19.298+00:00Ad Hominem and Fallacy according to you AnonAd Hominem and Fallacy according to you AnonGypsy Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-2003380453487416792013-01-14T20:22:25.839+00:002013-01-14T20:22:25.839+00:00Ian Driver = Me, Myself and IIan Driver = Me, Myself and IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3575321478441277410.post-43324069670382320952013-01-14T20:09:56.407+00:002013-01-14T20:09:56.407+00:00Nobody takes Ian Driver seriously. He has cried Wo...Nobody takes Ian Driver seriously. He has cried Wolf far too many times. His post clearly shows that he is a self-publicist and a laughing stockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com