Saturday, 1 June 2013

Ramsgate Bucket and Spade Run tomorrow and oh my god Thanet District Council’s tourism website again.

First here are the links to pictures of previous bucket and spade events in Ramsgate.




Only council could change their dreadful tourism website and make it worse, I defy anyone to find tomorrow’s main event The Bucket and Spade Run on the newly “improved” website here is the link to Visit Thanet http://www.visitthanet.co.uk/

Having fought with the website I then phoned the visitor information office in Margate and was told to select option 3 for events, which takes you to a recorded message telling you to look on the council’s Visit Thanet Website.

Isn’t is helpful strolling to make a living in what is supposed to be a tourist area to know the council are so supportive of local leisure events?

I tried again this time using option 1 which is theoretically to book accommodation although my guess is that all of the options that actually don’t lead to a message loop on this stupid machine that the council have wasted our money on make the same phone ring.


Why not just have the normal situation where someone at the other end picks up the phone when you ring the number? 

27 comments:

  1. That would be too simple and TDC doesn't do simple.
    Re Pleasurama: According to local paper 'the developers are not in breach' etc etc.
    How can doing diddlysquat for so many years be 'not in breach'?
    Hopefully the clot who signed the original agreement is no longer in a position to create a similar cock up elsewhere. No. I don't know who he or she was. I do know they were not fit for purpose.

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  2. You mean actually employ a person when they could waste money on things that tick all the boxes on the report that says "how well" they've done?

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  3. Col

    Yes you are right. They are not in breach. The development agreement gives them until 2017 to complete the scheme. And it is less than a two year build. So they would not need to start until 2015 and they would still have time to complete. The original agreement is flawed. It does not give TDC the powers to do anything with the site. And Funders will not lend monies with the current agreement in place. This is why the legals are currently being sorted once and for all. The developer keeps getting bad press, but SFP have put £4million+ into the scheme and they wont get their money back until they have built out and sold the scheme. So they are not going anywhere. The nimby's of Thanet who now want an ice rink on the site dont seem to be able to grasp that the developer has bought the 150year leases for the site. The developer I am sure does have a claim against TDC for delays caused by teh Cliff Face repairs, which suspended progress on the site for several months. I live on Wellington Crescent, and I really want the scheme to proceed. It would encourage people to spend monies on the Crescent and I am sure this would raise house prices throughout Ramsgate.

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    1. So you want it built to "improve" the area, and then you want to sell your house and move away?

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    2. Anon. The article does not say anything about moving away.

      But I do like the idea that my house will be worth a lot more than it is now. simples

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    3. Why? If you've no plans to sell then who cares what it's worth.

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    4. My family

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    5. anon you really need to look at the facts. the leases (there are 3) are each of 199 years

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    6. Interesting that you believe it will take 2 years to build seeing as planning was granted 28th Jan 2004. And as a matter of interest you say "funders" who do you believe they are? seeing as the developer's family could fund the 20 mill from their spare change

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    7. There is a delicious irony in James turning up and trying to ridicule others, and only managing to achieve humilation for himself.

      Tell me James, What has the length of time a building will take to build got to do with when planning permission was granted...

      What has the wealth of an individuals relatives got to do with how an individual's busisness is funded, even assuming that the wealth of those relatives is liquid capital rather than someone's net worth...

      It seems all you are good at James is proving how little you know about property, business or finance, no wonder you hide away in private groups on FB where your audience is gullible enough to take you seriously.

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    8. Thank you for shedding some light on this. Well put so that even I could understand it.

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    9. there is a delicious irony in peeps posting about private FB groups that they have left. strange that!!

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    10. If you want to read on a prior "development of the owner of SFP Ventures (UK) ltd have a look at what happened with Peterborough United Football club where SPK was a director. http://www.theposhtrust.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/23.pdf

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    11. Barry, I know you are very astute, but are you not barking from the wrong end of the dog. I have read that the chap is a self made millionaire to the tune of some £250+million

      I think he may be more astute than even you.

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    12. Never said their business was illegal but immoral. Buy a football club divide it into club and land then sell the land back to council in 2012 for £8M when covenant on land says council should be given 1st chance. Council say they were unaware of covenant when club was split in 2003. Very astute and sounds very familiar with Pleasurama saga. No building for 10 years.

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    13. Bless yu James, you still make me laugh when i see you peddle your inaccurate fairy stories and inueno, that is totally untroubled by facts relevance or evidence.

      As we know James, i was removed from FORS as i was unwiling to swallow your BS as the more easily lead members of that now completely discredited group are. But it's good to see you ridiculed when you don't have the power to silencepeople.

      Have you managed to post your 1st fact about pleasurama yet?

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    14. You were removed doesnt come as a surprise. Glad someone finally worked out you were peddling plenty of B***shit. Still have a presence on there though seeing the rubbish you put on your own blog recently.

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    15. Oh Barry you poor lamb. I still have never seen you name at the begining of anything containing a fact, whereas, as we both know, my posts are perfectly accurate. My removal entertained me greatly, as it clearly demonstrates tgat you cannot backuo your inuendo and BS, and need protectinh from anyone who points out that that is all your posts are, basless oand/or irrelevant BS. I wonder if you think you have EVER PROVED one of your little fairy stories...

      When you post out in the real world it ishighly amusing, do keep it up James, theres a good boy.

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  4. VisitThanet, Visitkent and all the other Visit... web sites are probably not proactive and rely on event organisers to notify them. So may be Ramsgate old motor and motor cycle club did not do this, it might be worth dropping them an email to see what happened.

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    1. Anon I think you missed my point here, the event is on their website, I just defied anyone to find it using their website www.visitkent.co.uk/events/9970

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    2. They all look a little lost in the picture Michael? I'm sure the presence of vintage motorcycles will help jog their memory?

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  5. I couldn't find the event using the website. Also, does anyone else think TDC's tourism/leisure offer is a bit biased towards Margate and Broadstairts? Admittedly, the photos of Ramsgate used on the site are stunning - but bit miffed to see B and M are being cast as original/quintissential 'destinations' whilst R is only plugged for its harbour and some nice architecture.

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  6. Wellington Crescent has had oodles of public money invested in private property over the years - but it still looks tatty because very few (not all)of the private beneficiaries bother to maintain their properties.

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  7. Surely planning consent lapses after a fairly short time if nothing is built [Pleasurama Site]?

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  8. I know In The KnowJune 02, 2013 7:15 pm

    Joe

    A must be commenced date - Yes and this box was ticked
    A must be completed date - No box to tick

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  9. The rules for normal people are set out on the government's planning portal:
    "Planning Planning Applications The decision-making process If permission is granted If permission is granted
    The authority grants/refuses planning permission by sending you a letter notifying you of its decision.

    By law, any planning permission granted expires after a certain period. Generally, unless your permission says otherwise, you have three years from the date it's granted to begin the development. If you haven't started work by then, you will probably need to reapply. However, you can apply to extend your existing permission before it expires – usually by a further two years"

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Comments, since I started writing this blog in 2007 the way the internet works has changed a lot, comments and dialogue here were once viable in an open and anonymous sense. Now if you comment here I will only allow the comment if it seems to make sense and be related to what the post is about. I link the majority of my posts to the main local Facebook groups and to my Facebook account, “Michael Child” I guess the main Ramsgate Facebook group is We Love Ramsgate. For the most part the comments and dialogue related to the posts here goes on there. As for the rest of it, well this blog handles images better than Facebook, which is why I don’t post directly to my Facebook account, although if I take a lot of photos I am so lazy that I paste them directly from my camera card to my bookshop website and put a link on this blog.