Tuesday, 9 August 2016

Mostly Margate photos dated either 1899 1900 1901 1902 or 1903 there are a few other Thanet ones and Broadstairs before and after the war.

 This is the rest of the album that I published the other day, which I managed to date to between 1899 and 1903 based on the Ramsgate pictures in the album at http://thanetonline.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/ramsgate-pictures-all-from-one.html

The Ramsgate ones show the tower of the Granville lowered so after 1899 but the pavilion not year built so before 1903, I wonder if anyone who knows what was built when in Margate can narrow it down a bit more.

My bookshop is very busy at the moment you can see the books that went out today here http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/broadstairs-1949-in-bookshop.html

My new Broadstairs publication the Broadstairs guide for 1949 – buy in now here http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/broadstairs-1949-in-bookshop.html or come into the bookshop, but not on Thursdays, has a peculiar social history facet.

This is because I also publish the same but different guide for 1937, see http://michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/sunny_broadstairs.htm so wee have the same but different guides with The Second World War.

So not a major historical document, but the subtle differences between the two guides somehow managed to express effects of the war that I couldn’t put into words, lots of small social changes, worth look if you get the chance.

The way things are going I will have to take on an A level student for an hour or so after school, so if you are going to start A levels next term and are interested in bookselling and publishing you can always drop me an email michaelchild@aol.com

Pictures will expand if clicked on, but the main point of them is that we know the date they were taken.
















Sunday, 7 August 2016

Manston DCO CPO update from the DFT, and a bit of sketching down from me.

As some of you may remember I attended the RiverOak consultations related to turning the closed Manston airport in to an airfreight hub.

For anyone not up to speed on this one Manston Airport is situated on The Isle of Thanet which lies in the southeast most corner of the UK, it started out as a WW1 airbase, was used as RAF airbase during WW2 and later both by the RAF and the Americans during the cold war.

From the mid 1960s it has been used as a civilian airport, first under RAF ownership i.e. shared military and commercial use and later as just a civilian airport.

Manston’s main snags as an airport are first that it is mainly surrounded by water meaning that it has a limited catchment area and secondly that the town of Ramsgate is very close to the end of the runway, with the flight path going over the town.

Various civilian operators have tried to make a go of Manston since the mid 1960s, all have failed with the majority going bankrupt.

I think the main reason has been Manston’s isolated location compared to the main UK airports in southern England, where the main transport conduit is the M25, with Gatwick and Heathrow airports both situated on the M25.

In recent years Manston has some foreign investment the last being the major Austrailian and New Zealand transport company Infratil. My own take is that they couldn’t believe that Manston’s 75 miles from London was seen in the UK as a long way, my guess is that they based their reasoning on 75 miles being just around the corner.

Anyway the last airport operator was too big to go bankrupt and put Manston Airport on the market where it failed to sell for several for several years, eventually like many loss making operations it was finally sold as a going concern with liabilities for a nominal figure.

The new owner who has a considerable interest in UK transport gave Manston a go for a bit but couldn’t find enough airlines, passenger or freight that were prepared to fly from Manston.    

Manston was put back on the market as a going concern.

One of the companies that tried to buy the site was the American real estate hedge fund operator RiverOak, for one reason or another their offers were rejected, my own guess is that this was because the are a fund management company that thry would have to get external investors to come up with the money.

I think had a major company with the funds available to by the airport come forward at this point the airport would have survived as an airport.

Manston was closed, most of the assets were sold, the staff made redundant and the site was sold for a non-aviation use, light industry and housing.

RiverOak then tried to get the local council to buy the site using compulsory purchase powers, the idea was the council would try to by it and that RiverOak would try to fund the purchase.

In the end the council failed to accept RiverOak, probably for much the same reasons the previous owner wouldn’t sell to them, a bird in the hand.

Now we have a situation where plans for the housing and light industry have been submitted and RiverOak are still trying to acquire the site for an airfreight hub. 

This time they are trying to get the UK government to acquire the site with RiverOak putting up the money, this is basically another compulsory purchase, using the governments Development Consent Order legislation, which is what the government uses to acquire land for major infrastructure projects, like roads, railways and airports.

The absolute minimum size for a Development Consent Order is 10,000 airfreight movements a year, here is the published remit for RiverOak’s palans:-

“The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport, with some passenger services, with a capacity of at least 12,000 air cargo movements per year.”

I have simplified the summery above as much as I can and I expect there are some errors because of this, so any corrections either as comments or by email are welcome.

Now we come to recent events, I went to RiverOaks presentation in Canterbury and came away with mixed feelings, here are the two blog posts I did about this.



Now to be honest all of the messing around trying to make sure we don’t get involved in another Thanet disaster like Pleasurama, where a company registered in a tax haven, that doesn’t have to publish regulated accounts or who actually owns the company, gets hold of a major local asset and fails to develop it. Well it’s time consuming and I would rather not bother if the company involved don’t have the resources to proceed. 

So after going to the consultation and coming away with the feeling that something was not quite right because of what the RiverOak representative said I wrote to the DFT and asked them the position.

The main things that the RiverOak rep said that worried me were:-

That RiverOak are a private company and don’t have to publish company details.

That any compensation paid by RiverOak would be minimal, either for the 700 acre Manston site or to those suffering blight because of their proximity to an airfreight hub with 12,000 aircraft movements a year and no fuel pipeline. So all of the associated fright lorry movements freight and fuel, generating the associated air and noise pollution.

That the Manston Green planning approval, both wasn’t near the runway and wouldn’t affect the running of an airfreight hub at Manston.

That the discrepancies between the US and UK RiverOak websites and the removal of the information about their substantial involvement with aviation from their US website was due to a website update.

As I said in my previous posts, I went to the consultation interested in the balance between the economic upside and the environmental downside coming out in a positive way for Thanet. I left the consultation because it became clear that the RiverOak rep was trying to take me into a fantasy world. I have a background as a scientist and engineer as do a lot of my friends and family, so I am used to lively and technical debate, however I have a considerable weakness, which is that I find it very difficult to converse with people who think the earth is flat or that the sun rotates around the earth. 
    
I guess what I should have done after the consultation was to write to RiverOak asking them to confirm or deny what I had been told at the consultation, I do have considerable difficulty with this sort of thing. How do I start? So you don’t think Manston Green is next to the end of the runway. So you think the earth is the centre of the universe with the sun and all of the stars rotating around it.

My problem here is I think I know I am right, so the issues are not open to debate, so how do I start this debate.

Anyway I shied away from this and put my concerns to the DFT instead, below is their reply.

Dear Mr Child

Apologies for the delay in responding to your emails of 29 July and 22 July 2016.

In your email of 22 July 2016 you raise some queries in respect of access to information about RiverOak, what checks are carried out by The Planning Inspectorate during the Pre-Application stage into applicants and noted an outline planning application in the vicinity of the Manston Airport site.

In respect of the first point, The Inspectorate do not hold any undisclosed information about this company or its financial dealings.  There is no legal requirement for an applicant to share such information with The Inspectorate at the Pre-Application stage.  However, where an application involves any compulsory acquisition of land, which RiverOak would do as part of their proposals for Manston Airport, the applicant would need to submit a Funding Statement with the application documents. 

A Funding Statement should provide as much information as possible about the resource implications of both acquiring the land and implementing the project for which the land is required.  Applicants should be able to demonstrate that adequate funding is likely to be available to enable them to carry out the compulsory acquisition within a statutory period following a Development Consent Order being made, and that the resource implications of a possible acquisition resulting from a blight notice has also been taken into account. Unless an Examining Authority is satisfied that funding will be available both for the carrying out of the project within the statutory period and for the payment of compensation claims the compelling case in the public interest test required by section 122(3) of the Planning Act will not be met and the compulsory acquisition powers cannot be granted.

From your email it appears that you have verbally discussed these matters with RiverOak.  If you have not done so already, and noting your point about limited acknowledgement or feedback to queries, I would strongly encourage you to put your queries in writing to the company itself.

In respect of the “Manston Green” proposals, Thanet District Council have been aware of the situation at Manston Airport in coming to their decision to grant outline planning permission for this scheme.  Now the scheme has outline permission, RiverOak must consider any future development on that site as part of their environmental assessment.

In your later email you make some further observations about a recent consultation event held by RiverOak.  I would encourage you to make these comments known to RiverOak if you have not done so already to enable them to consider the points in advance of any statutory consultation.  Before that statutory consultation occurs, the relevant authorities (Thanet District Council and Kent County Council) must be consulted by RiverOak on the content of their Statement of Community Consultation. The role of the local authority at this stage is to provide expertise about the make-up of its area, including whether people in the area might have particular needs or requirements, whether the authority has identified any groups as difficult to reach and what techniques might be appropriate to overcome barriers to communication. The local authority may also provide advice on the appropriateness of the developer’s suggested consultation techniques and methods. The local authority’s aim in such discussions should be to ensure that the people affected by the development can take part in a thorough, accessible and effective consultation exercise about the proposed project.  You may also wish to send any observations to Thanet District Council in respect of consultation activity.

Kind regards
Susannah

On to the sketching, sitting upstairs in Canterbury’s Chocolate CafĂ© today it occurred to me that there must be a way of drawing people so it looks like you are looking down on them.


In the first instance the face is roughly egg shaped, so assuming for an initial practice perfectly round would be good enough I decided that looking down from an angle of 45 degrees the face would become flattened so that it would be twice as wide as it is long.

After a bit I realised that the whole head is spherical and so what you see would remain spherical, but the features particularly the hair would move around the sphere.


In practice nothing works properly, the problems associated with drawing heads is a complex one as the mind has a very strong priori concept of what a head and particularly what a face should look like. As you see moving the hair round, even putting a large crow on the head doesn’t work, the rest of the face i.e the bit under the hair sort of straightens itself out.


You can put large heads on small bodies and vice versa and the brain makes this look normal, even a squiggle that looks like a person soon becomes a person.  



You can push the Debenhamsness of Debenhams a pretty long way and it still looks like Debenhams, a bit more practice and I should be able to accept that the sun goes round the earth. 

Saturday, 6 August 2016

Paint People and pictures, Broadstairs Folk Week

Folk Week in Broadstairs today, I took my paints, shopping trolley with built in seat which also carries the French easel which can also be used as a portable table for watercolour painting.


A mixture of Broadstairs being too busy and my sunglasses which incorporate a bifocal reading lens breaking, meant I didn’t get any oil painting done, however I did manage some watercolour painting.










Friday, 5 August 2016

August either 1899 1900 1901 1902 or 1903 and a ramble.

So there you are from the pamphlet I dated the other day circa 1901

Roughly the same view today.






A few photos of a boat going up on slipway No1, well at the moment that would be the only slipway. this is Morton's patent slipway I think it was built in 1838 and was originally powered by steam.

The main local news items this week have been associated with Dreamland and Pleasurama, one being Margate’s main leisure funfair site and the other Ramsgate’s. In both cases Thanet District Council went to considerable efforts to get control of the site and in both cases they seem to have now lost control of the sites. I know that it’s easy to be wise after the event, but I think we have now entered a time when seaside towns need a leisure facility and I think the best way to protect this facility from, land banking, residential apartments, unscrupulous developers, etc is for the council to own and subsidise their operation.

I would say the seaside town economy is too fragile for any other solution.  

 Not much time for sketching this week, my bookshop is busy at the moment, keep an eye on the bookshop blog to see what's comes in http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/ I did start the sketch above and intend to go and do some sketching at Broadstairs Folk Week which i think starts tomorrow.

Wednesday, 3 August 2016

The date of the Ramsgate Pictures I published yesterday

I linked yesterdays photos to some of the local Facebook groups and that was where the comment and attempts to work out the dates came from.


The last date it could be is fairly easy as the pavilion hasn’t been built, it was built in 1903. Apparently it took six weeks to build the Pavilion, the official opening was in 1904. The pictures were obviously taken in the summer, so the summer of 1903 is the last possible date they could be.


I publish a guide to Ramsgate for 1904, which is one of the most useful books for dating pictures of Ramsgate around this period, I have used some of the pictures from the 1904 guide to illustrate this post.


Obviously if you live in Ramsgate and it isn’t Thursday or Sunday when my bookshop is closed then you can come into the bookshop and have good look at this guide, if you live some distance away you can click on this link to buy it http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/ramsgate___broadstairs_by_camera___pen_1904_1905.htm


I would say that going for a walk around Ramsgate with the 1904 guide and the 1900 street directory http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/ramsgate_in_the_early_1900_s_some_pictures___a_street_directory_for_1900.htm is one of the best ways to improve your understanding of Ramsgate’s history.


If you have limited funds then just the £3.99 directory will do the job as it tells you what all the buildings in Ramsgate were in 1900.


Back to the answers, so what’s the earliest date the pictures could be? This relates to the highest building in Ramsgate, the tower on the top of The Granville. I publish two books about The Granville




and


detail from one of yesterdays photos

I think that some people have been having underbrowse, anyway the tower of the Granville was once much taller than it is now it was used to hold the water tanks that powered the spa in the hotel there. When the spa opened in 1871 it offered 25 different types of bath.

picture from between 1870 and 1899

My own take is that it was just too tall and heavy so they reduced the height in 1899 so any picture showing the tower tall is between 1870 and 1899 and any picture showing it shorter has to be after 1899.


Going up the tower even at its reduced height is interesting, so here are some links to the pictures I took of going up the tower.





  
So there you have it either 1899 1900 1901 1902 or 1903
 



Tuesday, 2 August 2016

Ramsgate pictures all from one publication, can you date them?

One of the tricky problems with old pictures is putting a date to them. Most of the photos taken between 1850 and 1950 are postcards and don’t have dates on them, in some cases the same postcard can have postmarks with 25 years between the dates.


Anyway all of these come from the same booklet of Thanet views and I can definitely narrow the date down to within a five year period, so what do you reckon the dates are?

If viewing with pc or laptop click on the picture to expand it and then click on the expanded picture to get the maximum size, if using a phone or tablet touch the image and then expand it by puting your finger and thumb on it and moving them apart.









Here in my bookshop it has been very busy since the schools broke up, local history and dates being a major factor as you can see from the books going out on the shelves http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/men-at-arms-in-bookshop.html which I guess roughly equates to the books going out the door, or the shop would explode.