Showing posts with label RiverOak. Show all posts
Showing posts with label RiverOak. Show all posts

Monday, 25 February 2019

The Thanet Plane Question and some old Plane Photos in Thanet.

Just over 100 years ago Aeroplanes came to Thanet
This is a picture of an aeroplane at Margate in 1913.
Here a Bleriot Plane snapped in 1913 at Margate
The general public has had a considerable interest in aviation since.

Here in Thanet the ups and downs of Manston Airport, with its critics and supporters, some aspects of aviation here being both so crazy as to make all of wonder. When this craziness seems to be supported by our local politicians and council officers it can make all of wonder what on earth to believe.

I posted about one of these incidents this morning,

here is the link

This is St Mildred's in 1914

With the current bid to reopen Manston Airport as an airfreight hub there are now thousands of documents published on the internet, the most recent being on the pins website

Here is the link

The information is still flowing in, new things come up, people have to change their minds about aspects of the project, all in all it's fairly difficult both for the people supporting the plans and those against them.

I have tried all along with Manston to take a fairly balanced view, this goes back for more than 10 years, most of what I have said about it should come up by using the link below and when you get to the end of a page of posts clicking on the 'older posts' link at the bottom of each page of posts.

Here is the link

As you would expect with thousands of pages submitted by RiverOak RSP there will be things that I don't understand, either because I have made a mistake or they have. Periodically I ask them questions and some of these still have outstanding answers.

So having got a bit frustrated with this process I emailed pins today:-

"Hi Manston Case team at pins
 
I still haven’t had any response to my questions about particulate dispersion distances made both to pins and RiverOak rsp on numerous occasions, including a deadline 1 submission.
 
I have tried to search the post application documents, but like the application itself it doesn’t have a dedicated and reliable search facility or comprehensive index. Because the pins application isn’t published as a normal website in html but as a series of pdf documents this makes it almost invisible to search engines like Google. This means the word particulate only brings up 3 matches, my own submission no appearing at all. The application as published on the pins website brings up no matches for the word particulate.    
 
To be absolutely clear with this pm10s disperse (fall to the ground) within about 1km of the burn that generated them and pm2.5s travel much further as airborne matter and certainly further than the Thanet coastline.
 
RiverOaks various environmental documents all appear to have made the fundamental error of using the same dispersion distance for pm 2.5s they used for the much larger pm10s i.e. about 1km and basically not much further than the proposed airport perimeter.
 
Using this wrong figure has resulted in a figure of only 1 death in Thanet from particulate matter whereas using the correct dispersion distance for pm2.5s would suggest a considerable increase.
 
Broadly RiverOak documentation appears to agree with current information about pm2.5s, which indicates an increase of 10 μg/m3 equates to premature death or the early onset dementia around in 20%. Of the population.
 
20% of the Thanet population would be. around 30,000 people.
 
Here in Thanet the problem with and airfreight hub with more than 10,000 movements per year, which would burn more than 30,000 tonnes of kerosene on or near the ground at Manston, would be exacerbated by the onshore sea breezes holding the air pollution in the main concentrations of population.
 
Obviously if both the applicant and pins don’t check to ensure that they are using the right dispersion distance for pm2.5s and make any necessary modification to the application then in the light of my continued and publicly documented observations could bring what was probably an error into the area of negligence. This could open the way for litigation from both victims of the diseases and the deceased dependent relatives.
 
I also feel that it is unreasonable to receive no explanatory response about the 2.5pm dispersion distance from the applicant, despite asking on numerous occasions over a considerable period of time, as this wastes my time, particularly in checking over multiple documents and I should like to claim compensation for this wasted time.
    
Effectively from my point of view, I have had no answer but am left with the possibility that I may have been answered somewhere in around 500 complex and unindexed documents."

The reply I got was interesting, here it is:-

"Dear Mr Child

Thank you for your email.

The process is inquisitorial. The Examining Authority (ExA) has read your Deadline 1 submission and will ask questions arising from its content as it considers necessary. The next suite of written questions is scheduled to be published on 5 April 2019.

If you wish for your below email to be put before the ExA and considered for acceptance as an additional submission please confirm by response.

Kind regards

The Manston Airport Case Team"

I think what pins are saying here is that as part of the process pins will, if asked in the right way, put difficult questions to the applicant and get answers.

Anyway back to local history and old photos 

Here are a couple of a flying boat at Margate in 1932

 Much more recently here are some that Simon Moores sent me when we were preparing his book Thanet From the Air together in 2005






We always have some books about Manston in the bookshop, the only one we publish is, Twilight of the Pistons. Here are some pictures from that.







Work wise here in the bookshop 



Manston Airport, bigger than Heathrow and Gatwick?

Before I start on this I should point out that I have have a bit of history when it comes to Manston and other UK provincial airports. Back in the 1960s we would take our little Morris car and park it on the edge of the airfield clutching our £40 allowances and our passports, we would climb the steps up to the towering DC10 and in a few hours be transported to Spain or Italy, where the sun always shined, the food and wine were cheap...

Now of course it's the fast train, underground to the departure gate and less fun at greater expense.

  Ploughing through the latest tranche of Manston docs

Deadline 3 submissions I came across this interesting

series of documents  Published today on the pins website containing the map above and an explanation.

Tuesday, 14 August 2018

Flight workers and fantasies a premature Manston post

Ramsgate's latest aviation worker has been busy reorganising seagull's flightpaths for the convenience of diners on the sundeck.

Today is the resubmitted Manston DCO acceptance deadline, not a tweet from RSP since Jul 16 this is the link to their Twitter feed   as the DCO process is supposed to be one of public engagement, this sort of thing seems very strange to me.

Pins have put a "today's the day" message on their website, perhaps they are waiting for RSP to say something.

Since the resubmission I have tried to engage with RSP on the advice of pins, this is a bit of an uphill struggle, best read from the bottom up, this is the link to the emails I don't think it is very hard to see why I gave up.

Anyway delving about looking for some answers I note that the UK Parliament website has published the correspondence about our MP Mr Craig Mackinlay's flutter with aviation this is the link to it

Anyway noted here as to my mind the failure to have published the decision by either RSP or PINS by mid afternoon on the deadline day is significant intisself and needs recording.

If I were to make a wild guess, I would think something along the lines of a recommendation to withdraw combined with the using of our political "big guns" 

Another possibility is that this pins zen

"If the application is accepted, we will:
  • On the day of the decision publish the acceptance decision and the Adequacy of Consultation Representations received from the relevant local authorities."
"If the application is not accepted, we will:
  • Publish the decision letter and reasons why it hasn’t been accepted."
This could be interpreted as not publishing the decision today means it wasn't accepted, it's now 5pm on decision day and still nothing that I can find.

Accepted now This is the link to the acceptance letter 



Development Consent for the upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport Notification of decision to accept an application for examination I refer to the above application for an Order granting development consent made under section 37(2) of the Planning Act 2008 (PA2008), and received by the Planning Inspectorate on behalf of the Secretary of State on 17 July 2018. The Secretary of State has decided to accept this application for examination. In reaching this decision, the Secretary of State has:  in respect of section 55(3)(e) had regard to the matters set out in section 55(4), and concluded that the applicant has complied with Chapter 2 of Part 5 of PA2008; and  in respect of section 55(3)(f), had regard to the extent to which those matters set out in section 55(5A) have either been complied with or followed, and concluded that the application (including accompaniments) is of a satisfactory standard. Please be aware of your duties under:  sections 56, 58 and 59 of PA2008;  Regulations 8, 9 and 10 of The Infrastructure Planning (Applications: Prescribed Forms and Procedure) Regulations 2009; and  Regulation 13 of The Infrastructure Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 2009 or, for projects scoped after 16 May 2017, The Infrastructure Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 2017. National Infrastructure Planning Temple Quay House 2 The Square Bristol, BS1 6PN Customer Services: e-mail: 0303 444 5000 ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk infrastructure.planninginspectorate.gov.uk Yours sincerely Simone Wilding Simone Wilding Head of Major Casework Management For and on behalf of the Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government This communication does not constitute legal advice. Please view our Privacy Notice before sending information to the Planning Inspectorate.




Tuesday, 17 July 2018

Manston DCO update and my normal blog post

Since RSP/RiverOak announced on their website that they had resubmitted their DCO application I have been trying to find out why there isn't any mention of this on the pins website.
This is a picture of a plane at Nash Road.

pins have an unfortunate approach to publishing websites which means that they are inclined to insert old documents into the chronological list long after the date one would expect them to be published.

I think one appeared today dated 27th June

This is the link to it 

different to the other one dated 11th May and also called "Meeting Note"

This is the link to that 

I really am not sure if the info about Manston and the DCO is significant of anything much so I will start the blog post with historic Thanet aviation pictures and add some more to the blog later this evening.








Just what this is all about I really no longer know, I don't think there is much possibility that RiverOak intend to produce any sort of airport. It could be a land grab, or perhaps there are other possible motives.

I think that this quote translates as something like, we hope to get some money.

"The Applicant noted that there are often significant commercial sensitivities around funding arrangements and partnership agreements on such large infrastructure projects.

The Applicant was keen to demonstrate the availability and credibility of funding mechanisms whilst being cautious to only release into the public domain such documents as were necessary at a suitable time in the process so as not to prejudice its on-going relationships with funding partners."

Here in the bookshop work goes on as usual and this is the link to the books that got priced and put out on the shelves today we hope we got them all priced for less than you could buy a comparable copy online.

I have had a couple of skives to the Royal Victoria Pavilion aka Wetherspoons today

 Bit of a spot the difference again
 This has to be one of the best places to paint a watercolour from in the UK

I only have to tap the app on my phone and along come a cuppa accompanied by a bowl of fresh fruit and ice cream.

I did take a few photos today, I haven't looked at them yet as I don't get much time so it is a case of a direct cut and paste from the camera's SD card to my website, which hasn't quite finished yet.

Here are links to the photos

Link 1

Link 2  

Having had a look at the photos I have remembered work has started on the empty shop in York Street that was a butchers, the fair on the Pleasurama site doesn't look to be far off opening; the pictures tell the story.

Monday, 4 June 2018

Manston Airport DCO update

The picture is of the Red Arrows at Manston in 1968

This mainly relates to the meeting between The Department for Transport and the DCO applicant RSP Riveroak Strategic Partners on 11th May 2018

Here is are the links to the documents on the pins website

Meeting Note 

Detailed record of the Inspectorate’s observations and advice.


OK early days in trying to understand what these documents mean

I think the main issue in the whole thing is about what constitutes a NSIP Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project and this boils down not to the size of the new RSP project but to the increase in size from when Manston was running before to what it would be after RSP had increased the amount of aircraft it could handle.

So I think that the planning inspectorate have taken the number of flights (strictly movements takeoff or landing) per year permitted under the previous CAA license around the 23,000 ball park and asked RSP to show they will increase the number to 33,000. Not worked it out yet but this looks around 60 flights a day probably with about 6 flights per night.

I think RSP took the Manston capacity as 0 and I don 't think this will work.

I also think that anyone who attended the consultations realised that there was an issue with notifying people that the consultations were happening, I think something went wrong with their postal drop, when I last discussed it with one of the RSP reps they seemed to have accepted that there had been a serious problem, but not worked out how serious.

For me all the way along the line one of the biggest difficulties has been that I can't find a good sound argument from anyone supporting RSPs plans. So mountains of technical guff, but simple stuff like why people wanting to fly themselves or freight would drive past the major London airports to Manston.

I think the funding statement is also a big hurdle for RSP I think they would have to prove that they had sufficient legitimately sourced money to at the very least buy the Manston site based on an open market valuation.

I see this as a very significant Thanet news story that none of the local news sites seem to be able to report, hardly anything on social media either.

Is this the end of the RSP DCO I wonder?

this is a blog post in progress

Sunday, 13 May 2018

Sunday Ramble, photos old and new Ramsgate Canterbury Margate and inevitably the Manston DCO saga.


The main issue this week has been the withdrawal of the Development Consent Order to build an airfreight hub at Manston.

I think the most worrying factor here is that this DCO application was put together by a reasonably good and professional team with previous DCO experience and that the net result of the DCO process so far has been to change the Thanet District Council administration to Conservative and cause Thanet to produce no Local Plan giving something of a free for all for housing developers.

This (in big blue) is what the Planning Inspectorate have said so far:-

1. Any resubmission by the Applicant will be treated as a new application for the purposes of the process. The Planning Inspectorate would have up to 28 days to take its decision about whether the application could be accepted for examination.

2. The Planning Inspectorate called the Applicant’s legal representatives (BDB Law) on 1 May 2018, setting out its principal concerns in respect of the application documents. Those concerns included:

• An absence of sufficient information within the application documents upon which to the Planning Inspectorate could base a decision about whether the Proposed Development constitutes a Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project (NSIP) within the meaning in s23 of the Planning Act 2008.

• Gaps in the ecological, archaeological and ground investigation survey data presented within the Environmental Statement (ES) accompanying the application, which create uncertainty in the assessment of likely significant effects.

• Inconsistencies/ omissions in the noise and vibration assessment.

• The adequacy of the Transport Assessment accompanying the ES.

• The adequacy of the Funding Statement.

On 3 May 2018 a teleconference was held between the Planning Inspectorate, BDB Law and RiverOak Strategic Partners (RSP). During this teleconference the Planning Inspectorate repeated its principal concerns (above) in the presence of RSP, who confirmed their intention to withdraw the application. Subsequently the application was formally withdrawn by letter dated 4 May 2018.

Today (11 May 2018) a meeting took place between the Planning Inspectorate and the Applicant at which the Inspectorate provided more detailed s51 advice in respect of the concerns noted within the documents associated with the withdrawn application. A note of the meeting is being prepared and will be published in the usual way in due course.


Of course, we will have to wait to read the meeting note to grasp all of it, but with so much wrong with the application it is difficult not to assume that the applicant knew the application would fail when they submitted it and what has actually happened is what they set out to achieve. 

A few historic local pictures next 








The bookshop being closed on Sunday we went to Canterbury where we did some shopping and stuff. I spent about half the time in Chocolate Cafe and the other half in bookshops. While I am on the bookshop subject here is the link to the books that went out in the bookshop yesterday mostly children's Ladybird Books and books about old busses.

I took a few photos of Canterbury, here is the link 

Back to the DCO process I think the thing that hasn’t really been understood properly by people commenting about it, is that the process is front loaded and that this means that the applicant really has to have sorted out the issues before submitting the application.

I am assuming that the next stage will be another round of consultation with revised documents, but who knows they may just revise the documents but not consult anyone, as far as I can see Canterbury and Ramsgate councils didn't even get told about the last round of consultation, let alone get to the stage where RiverOak entered into some sort of dialogue with them.







Monday, 12 March 2018

Manston DCO Consultation process Post



Since my damascene conversion and support for the vast majority of local people who are prepared to sacrifice part of their lives, their mental and physical health for a new airfreight hub at Manston, my interest in the consultation process is unwavering.

To quote RiverOak aka RSP in their 2018 Preliminary Environmental Impact Study (non technical summery) 1.1.108 “There is health evidence drawn from the scientific literature that allows potential impacts on mortality and rates of certain diseases due to changes in noise and air pollutant exposure to be predicted quantitatively (in numerical terms). The scientific evidence shows that, depending on the level of noise or air pollution concentration, these may affect diseases of the heart, lungs and circulation system, mental health and wellbeing, and the overall risk of premature death.”

Bring it on I say, our forefathers made great sacrifices in two world wars from Manston and I am looking forward to making my own small sacrifice for the future of air cargo.

Oddly enough everything on the Manston DCO front seems to have gone a bit quiet so I thought it a good time to publish my correspondence with pins about the difficulty I had with the consultation process.  

To expand on this, I had hoped that my own small contribution would help to shape the great new cargo hub, but sadly I had great difficulty with the consultation process, particularly with using the document pack.

You may find this difficult to believe but there are a group of local people, well to be honest most of the don’t seem to be Thanet born and bred, who are not keen on suffering a debilitating disease, followed by premature death and they are actually against the DCO process.

I should stress here that this post isn't about the pros and cons of the DCO but about the process being very difficult and you will see near the end of the correspondence pins do seem so suggest that expert advice may be available.  

The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport
   
Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:32
 From michaelchild michaelchild@aol.com
To
manstonairport manstonairport@pins.gsi.gov.uk
Dear Manston DCO pins team


I am writing to you to complain about the Manston DCO consultation process, mainly because it doesn’t seem to have been consultation process engaging with local people to produce a viable and broadly acceptable project, but a promotional exercise preconceived and broadly inflexible for an airfreight hub. The approach has been much more like a conventional planning application that a front-loaded DCO application with appropriate public engagement.

You will have received my emails about this Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:39 to the applicant and Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:26 to Iain Livingston TDC, as I copied them to you you.

As I haven’t had replies to either of them I am now writing to pins.

With the applicant this 2018 consultation seems to me to be just another case of talking into the void, where one would normally expected a response leading to a dialogue that would have produced solutions or partial solutions.

For example, the issue of the website being published as unsearchable images of pdf files, which could only be downloaded to become active, but when downloaded were too big to run concurrently on any normal ITC could and would obviously have been best solved by writing a navigable and indexed website, but could have been partially solved by publishing them online as searchable pdf files. In the same way as pins and virtually every other organisation published pdfs online.

This could easily have been done using fast reliable and cheap hosting and at the very least the titles that appear on the document could have been included next to the links as some aid to navigation.

As such hosting will run in most internet browsers it means that all of the documents can be run concurrently in different tabs and the computing memory and processing is transferred to the hosting server. Obvious the main remaining issues are that there is no index, normal website organisation and each tab can only be searched individually and no the whole PEIR.

I have done this as an example using the Google Drive hosting facility, which in this instance costs about £5 for a month.

Below the links are on left side with the document title, not included on the rsp 2018 consultation links page to the right of the link

PEIR 1  Vol I Chapters 1 to 10

PEIR 2  Vol II Chapters 11 to 18

PIER 3  Vol III this is the maps and plans and as a pdf too big to run in anything so a folder of the pictshttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11KSiF-xMmLxeh-kFcggEyZfJVEhecNih

PEIR 4 Vol IV Appendices 1.1-1.3

PEIR 5
  Vol V Appendices 2.1-7.5

PEIR 6 Vol VI Appendices 7.6-9.5

PEIR 7 Volume VII Appendix 10.1 Part 1

PEIR 8 Volume VIII Appendix 10.1 Part 2

PEIR 9 Volume IX Appendix 10.1 Appendix B-Appendix F

PEIR 10 Volume X Appendices 11.1-12.5

PEIR 11 Volume XI Appendices 14.1-16.1

Other Documents

1 Introduction An Introduction to the Consultation

2 is the PEIR links above Preliminary Environmental Information Report

3 Non technical summery
  Non-Technical summary of the PEIR  (“NTS”)

4 Masterplan Masterplan

5 Noise mitigation Plan
 Noise Mitigation Plan

6 SOCC
 Statement of Community Consultation   

This would at least have meant most local people could have run the consultation documents on most of their devices. As it was I don’t really think that anyone could use the PEIR document in any meaningful way, statutory consultees and pins included.

Of course if pins have found a way of running the PEIR documents on a computer in a way that would have allowed any normal employed person with a reasonable amount of spare leisure time to devote to responding to the consultation then could you please tell me how this could be done?

Could pins get their own itc department to look at the way the documents were published, particularly in terms of the deliberately making the documents difficult to use?

From my point of view the applicant is also abusing the DCO application system by failing to reply in any meaningful way to feedback made by respondents both questions about the project but also to questions about the consultation process.

The overall affect of this failure to reply meaningfully, when combined with the number of consultations, three so far and producing the documents in an inaccessible way, is to deter people from engaging in the consultation process.  

I think it should be understood that Ramsgate, which is the main concentration of population that would be affected by the project contains some wards, which are not only among the most deprived in Kent but in the whole of the UK.

This means that many of the people who are likely to be affected will be less able to engage than would normally be the case and my feeling are the information and consultation sessions should have been held in the town centre, with very clear descriptions of both the projects benefits and disadvantages.

Holding the only consultation session in a hotel in one of the more salubrious residential parts of the town has connotations of the Savoy Grill being open to everyone, but everyone doesn’t use it in the way the would use say McDonalds.

I think this constitutes a deprivation accessibility issue, which should be addressed properly now and I wish to complain that this hasn’t happened, I feel that pins and all government departments should be proactively addressing depravation and should like your view on this issue.    

While publishing notifications in newspapers and on the applicant’s website sounds like a good method of promoting the consultation, local papers here now have a significantly lower circulation than was once was the case, with free paper delivery no longer occurring. Distributing posters and leaflets to shops, pubs, local information centre, hotels etc is now the norm and this didn’t happen with any of the consultation events or general notification of the consultation.

I also believe that something went badly wrong with the leaflet distribution, as far as I have been able to ascertain virtually no one actually receive a leaflet and the leaflets apparently contained no details of the negative effects related to the project.

Obviously as the applicant’s own documentation contains details of severe and adverse changes to life, this is a quote from the 2018 PEIR:- "in year 20, significant adverse effects have been identified as being likely a result of an increase in noise in the following communities which are in the vicinity of the airport and flight paths: Ramsgate;„  Manston;„  Wade;„  West Stourmouth; and„  Pegwell Bay.„ 1.1.83 In these communities aircraft noise would increase to the point where there would be a perceived change in quality of life for occupants of buildings in these communities or a perceived change in the acoustic character of shared open spaces within these communities."

With this in mind one would expect the local MPs to be actively helping local people to understand and respond to the consultation, as it is one has an aviation business and the other introduced the applicant to the local community. 

The future adverse affects will already be having an effect on the values of properties and business in the above areas, partly because of the consultation method not being clear and decisive and containing a comprehensive future compensation plan that would protect future property and business values, should compensation for this issue now be sought from pins or the applicant?



Obviously I am aware that this is the first time that a DCO has been used for a project affecting such a large number of people and the first time it has been used for a major airfreight facility so one would expect issues. I am however becoming concerned that the DCO process is proving unfit for this purpose, particularly in terms of the effects of future property blight and the time taken by people having to respond repeatedly to a poorly presented consultation process.

In view of the size and scope of the project and its effects could you kindly set out how the issue of compensation for time spent on responding repeatedly and property blight will be addressed, both in terms of time scale and how to apply for it.

In a general sense I also think that pins should be making some effort to engage with and support residents, particularly those in the most deprived wards affected, who may neither be able to use the internet or understand the implications of the application.

I think it should be understood that our local council are in a state of some disarray, mainly because of the ongoing DCO application, having rejected the local plan, has just had the majority party split, leader resign and appear to be under funded or resourced to properly assist people with the consultation process, both in terms of depravation accessibility issues and problems related to inadequacy of the consultation process. This is highlighted by the absence of any reply to my email to them.    

While I don’t think it was the intention of the DCO process to destabilise local government, this is what appears to have happened and appears to be just another costly aspect, which I assume will ultimately appear as a rise in council tax.    
Best regards Michael

To
michaelchild michaelchild@aol.com
CC
Manston Airport ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk
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Dear Michael

Thank you for your email.

As you are aware, if an application is submitted, this and your previous correspondences can be considered by the Secretary of State in addition to the statutory acceptance tests.

Could pins get their own itc department to look at the way the documents were published, particularly in terms of the deliberately making the documents difficult to use?

The Planning Inspectorate cannot test the adequacy of an applicant’s consultation until an application is submitted to it. The means by which the adequacy of consultation can be tested are set out in section 55 of the Planning Act 2008 (PA2008).

I think this constitutes a deprivation accessibility issue, which should be addressed properly now and I wish to complain that this hasn’t happened, I feel that pins and all government departments should be proactively addressing depravation and should like your view on this issue.

See above answer. Note in addition that at the Acceptance stage the Secretary of State must have regard to the extent to which the Applicants has had regard to government’s ‘Planning Act 2008: guidance on the pre-application process’:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/418009/150326_Pre-Application_Guidance.pdf. Evidence in this regard should be provided by the Applicant in its Consultation Report.

In view of the size and scope of the project and its effects could you kindly set out how the issue of compensation for time spent on responding repeatedly and property blight will be addressed, both in terms of time scale and how to apply for it.

The PA2008 regime recognises that a Nationally Significant Infrastructure Project (NSIP) may create blight reducing land values. Section 175 of the PA2008 amends Schedule 13 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 to enable owner occupiers to serve a blight notice on the Secretary of State (SoS) requiring the SoS to purchase their property in certain circumstances. These are where a National Policy Statement (NPS) identifies a particular location as a potentially suitable location for an NSIP (there is no NPS in this case) or if land is blighted by an application being made for a Development Consent Order authorising the Compulsory Acquisition of the owner occupier’s land or from such authorisation being given.    

Separately, any interference with private interests may give rise to a right to make a relevant claim. For further information see FAQ14 in our Community Consultation FAQs and government guidance relating to Compulsory Acquisition procedures:


In respect of “compensation for time spent responding”, there is no mechanism through which this can be claimed at the Pre-application stage of the process. For details of the applicable costs regime after an application has been accepted for examination, I refer you to government’s ‘Awards of costs: examinations of applications for development consent orders’: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/awards-of-costs-examinations-of-applications-for-development-consent-orders

Kind regards

Richard Price | National Infrastructure Case Manager
Major Applications & Plans

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Temple Quay House, Temple Quay, Bristol BS1 6PN
Direct Line: 0303 444 5654
Helpline: 0303 444 5000

Re: The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport
   
Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:50
 michaelchild michaelchild@aol.comHide
To
ManstonAirport ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk
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Dear Richard

I think the issue that you haven’t replied to here is that the application process itself, as distinct from the any blight caused by the actual NSIP, is causing blight and other problems of its own.

Were this a conventional planning application for an airfreight hub, I assume there would have been a distinct timeframe organised by the planning authority, application, public enquiry, etc followed by a decision. Most importantly there would have been some discernable end to the application and the associated uncertainty.

As things are here, the timeframe of the preapplication stage appears to be entirely dictated by the applicant and regardless of the result of the application is having local impacts now.

We have now had two years of the applicant releasing contradictory information into the local community and I am working on the assumption that this can happen in perpetuity.

A prime example of this contradictory information is the night flights issue, where for the bulk of this time the information has been there will be no night flights, however in the latest PEIR they are applying for a large nightime flying quota.

I am concerned by the application process’s impact on local government here, I myself am not a supporter of leaving the EU so I didn’t vote for UKIP, most local people who voted in the district council elections however, did vote IKIP and until recently we had a UKIP administration at Thanet Council, now we have a Conservative lead council.

It would appear that the root of this change of administration stems from local councillors not properly understanding the situation relating to the Manston site, CPO, CA, council cpo and therefore no longer being able to agree enough to function as an administration.

More precise questions.

Can the preapplication stage continue in perpetuity?

Are there circumstances where pins can cause the applicant to withdraw the application?

In terms of the deprivation issues relating to some parts of Ramsgate that are on the direct flight path (within 1 to 4 km of the end of the runway) and are also some of the most deprived wards in the uk, is there anywhere the local community could look for expert support during the preapplication and application stages?

Have there been any other DCO applications that have significant similarities to the Manston one, that I could look at in terms of comparative guidance?
  

Best regards Michael
RE: The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport
   
Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:56
 Manston Airport ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.ukHide
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michaelchild michaelchild@aol.com
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Manston Airport ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk
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Dear Mr Child
Thank you for your email.
Can the preapplication stage continue in perpetuity?
Please see my response to you dated 5 January 2018 within which I have already provided an answer to this question: https://infrastructure.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/projects/south-east/manston-airport/?ipcsection=advice&ipcadvice=0bccaa1574
Are there circumstances where pins can cause the applicant to withdraw the application?
The Planning Inspectorate cannot compel an applicant to withdraw an application. If an application is submitted to the Planning Inspectorate and subsequently accepted for examination, it can only be:
· withdrawn by the Applicant; or
· decided, following due process, by the relevant Secretary of State.

In terms of the deprivation issues relating to some parts of Ramsgate that are on the direct flight path (within 1 to 4 km of the end of the runway) and are also some of the most deprived wards in the uk, is there anywhere the local community could look for expert support during the preapplication and application stages?
Any expert/ legal advice sought in respect of an application for development consent would need to be procured by an individual/ interest group or organisation by conventional means. Alternatively you could contact Planning Aid which offers free independent, professional advice and support to individuals and local communities wishing to engage in the planning process: http://www.rtpi.org.uk/planning-aid/
Have there been any other DCO applications that have significant similarities to the Manston one, that I could look at in terms of comparative guidance?
There have been no previous applications for development consent made under s23 of the Planning Act 2008. However, most applications for development consent will share similarities, to a greater or lesser extent, in respect of the most common issues examined across the breadth of NSIP development.
For decided applications a good place to start in identifying the main issues that influenced an Examining Authority’s (ExA) consideration of the case for development consent is, in each case, the respective ExA’s report to the Secretary of State (SoS) and the subsequent decision and statement of reasons issued by the SoS. ExA reports may assist in demonstrating to you, and other members of the local community, how individuals and interest groups can most helpfully and effectively make representations to an examination. Examples of reports and decisions associated with all decided NSIP applications are available to read on our website.
If you have any further questions about the process, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Kind regards