Wednesday 30 March 2011
To view the document, go to http://www.ukplanning.com/thanet in the street name box click on the letter H, then click on Hartsdown Road and you will have all of the various planning documents that relate to this issue.
The batch of documents you want is 30 Mar 2011 F/TH/11/0224 and if you click on that link you will find one document called Other, this is a deed of variation changing the terms of an agreement between Thanet District Council and Hartsdown Development Company.
I should point out here that according Simon Mores in a rather bizarre thread on his blog, this document is to be deleted when their IT wizards work out how to do so, see http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/03/wedding-bells.html
If you click on the plan above and then click on it again it should be big enough to follow, note the red bit in the middle of the park, my understanding is that the football club want to put an artificial pitch there and fence it off so that it cuts the park in half.
Some people in Margate don’t like this idea and think that a public park is somewhere they should be able to walk across, others think that this will help the football club to survive.
And this map, the council’s planning site is like that, fuzzy images that you can’t decipher are quite common.
What the different looking plans and the deed of variation actually mean, in terms of the cutting the park up is a bit hard to tell, perhaps that they intend to cut it up in a different way.
Thanet District Council and Dinah McNicol and Vicky Hamilton memorial service, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12911297
Tuesday 29 March 2011
This is an A5 32 page booklet priced at £2.99 including p&p to a UK address, it will be available via our website hopefully by the weekend, if you can’t wait until then email me MichaelChild@aol.com
Alternatively you can ring 01843 589500 or come to the bookshop during shop hours 9.30 to 5.30 not Thursday or Sunday, all normal payment methods accepted, Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, cheque, cash.
Here are my notes from the book, and the first page, by way of introduction.
As you can see although Denis wrote this memoir in 1996 and died in 2001 it has only recently come to me for publication. World War 2 is fast slipping from living memory and I am anxious to obtain any other Thanet war memories for publication.
The picture on the back cover relates to the aeroplane that flew into Wellington Crescent and shows the damage to the front of the house there.
Another factor of interest to those reading this may be the school leaving age, I hope these notes are useful. The first school leaving age was set in 1880 at 10 years, this was raised to 11 in 1893, 12 in 1899, 14 in 1921, 15 in 1947 and 16 in 1968.
I would say from personal experience that the whole business of being able to work under the school leaving age extended up to about 1970 as there was much less regulation of casual employment.
The book “Thanet at War” mentioned at the beginning of this booklet is now out of print and costs around the £20 to £30 mark secondhand, other books of interest are: “To a Safer Place; more memories of Kent evacuees” this covers Thanet, Canterbury And Ashford, was originally published in 2000 at £14.95 and I still have a few copies in stock at this price.
My own publications; “Dangerous Coastline 1939 – 1945”, “Ramsgate August 1940” and “Midst Bands and Bombs 1946”.
These are available from our website michaelsbookshop.com where there is more information about them, or of course you can ring up or write to the bookshop, for more information or to order them, contact details at the back of this booklet.
Finally just to say I found this an interesting and edifying read that adds to my understanding of Ramsgate during the Second World War.
Michael Child March MMXI
ALL OF SUDDEN EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT
Having received a book “Thanet At War 1939 – 1945” for Xmas 1996 from my daughter and son in law, Terri and Nick, and glancing through it set me thinking back to when I was a boy. I remember the morning the war started. It was a Sunday and everyone was going about their normal business – but all of a sudden everything was different.
A man announced on the radio that “we have had no communication from the German Chancellor, so consequently we are at war with Germany”. Everything went quiet all around, out in the street and indoors, then the siren went – a long wailing sound.
My Mother said, “What do we do now?” Nobody knew, so we got under the big wooden kitchen table. Why? I don’t know. I suppose we thought it was safe there.
Later the All Clear Siren went (a long continuous note) and everyone in the street went about their business. I was seven and a half years old and that date was September 3rd 1939.
I had a sister Angela, three years younger than myself, who suffered from fits, due to a fall down the stairs when she was about two years old. Over the next few weeks we were supplied with an Anderson Shelter, which was set up in the garden, about six feet down. We lived at 60 Winstanley Crescent. The other book is a Ramsgate Street Directory for 1923, I don’t seem to have written any introduction to this one. This is an a A5 booklet 84 pages price £4.99 including p&p in the UK and tell you where the businesses were and who lived where in Ramsgate, in 1923. The rest of the local books I publish can be found at http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/
Sunday 27 March 2011
Friday 25 March 2011
Thursday 24 March 2011
The Matthew back in Ramsgate Harbour more pictures plus some pictures of Sandwich today and a few thoughts.
We went to Sandwich today, so all in all a bit of a medieval day here are the pictures http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/laptopol311/id5.htm lunch at The Little Cottage Tea Rooms, I had lasagna and a pot of tea my wife a baked potato and hot chocolate total cost £15 good value and good food.
Good to hear that the council have managed to let the Marks and Spencer building in Margate to “Store Twenty One” apart from charity shops, estate agents and food shops, there isn’t much in the way of shops in Sandwich now.
These big town centre shops were worth a lot of money at one time and commanded considerable rents that were related to the profit that could be made by shops trading there. Recently the large shop in Ramsgate opposite my bookshop failed to reach the reserve of £170,000 in a property auction, another of these shop properties was the subject of a post on Margate Architecture Blog, see http://margatearchitecture.blogspot.com/2011/03/for-sale-amazing-corner-freehold.html
It was during medieval times that market towns developed around trade and our society came to revolve around trading in towns, this took over a thousand years, in the last thirty years this has started to collapse, out of town shopping, then the internet being largely responsible and leaving the problem of what happens to the shops and town centres.
Wednesday 23 March 2011
As you can see from the picture Albion Gardens is looking a bit on bald side.
The strange and unexpected progress continues with the Pleasurama Development, instead of the pile boring we expected the shallow concrete pad foundations shown in the picture are going in.
The developer seems cautiously scraping away at the chalk near to the bottom of the cliff wall, although there don’t seem to be any signs of foundations there, it does look like solid undisturbed chalk.
What I can’t seem to get is any information about what is actually going on with the site and frankly all may be well there, but until my answers come back telling me why the schedule has changed, the foundation method has changed, why the cliff top drain is still blocked and so on, I remain sceptical.
From a purely historical perspective there can be no doubt that the solid chalk base of the site must be a considerable distance below where the shallow concrete foundations are going in. The cliff before cliff wall was put on would have been formed by erosion from the sea and in some time in the distant past the cliff would have extended down to the low tide level.
Here are the rest of the pictures http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/311/id14.htm
Lost for words?
Sorry about the lack of blog posting over the last week, I don’t think I was in the mood or something and there has been plenty of interest on the other blogs, I may ramble on about that later.
Linking to http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:En9ufgJRHj8J:www.scribd.com/doc/51214673/Labour-Party-email-exchange-re-Kay-Dark+from+jennifermatterface&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk
Thursday 17 March 2011
Day off today and pretty cold so I didn’t spend much time outside taking pictures.
The Dawn Treader is now ready to sail to London for the launch for the launch of the cd. Here are some pictures http://www.thanetonline.com/netbook311/id3.htm anybody’s guess what they look like from this tiny netbook.
I also wanted to get a picture of just how far the tourist information is going to be moved in Margate, I have tried to put an arrow on the picture, click on it to enlarge, I think in council circles this is known as getting a little for a lot.
Here are the other pictures from the camera card http://www.thanetonline.com/netbook311/id4.htm I will try to get to a normal sized pc and write a bit more later on.
Having finally made it to a computer with a screen that I can actually see the pictures on, they look a bit dark to me, perhaps it is just the dull days at the moment anyway I have lightened them a bit and put them all here http://www.thanetonline.com/netbook311/id5.htm
Update, David Redfern has sent me some more pictures of the Dawn Treader conversion, click on the link for them http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/311/id12.htm
Wednesday 16 March 2011
Word on the street is that the council have finally seen sense over the big event and are going to make it a free event next year centred around the Turner Contemporary, possibly they will rename it, perhaps Margate Air and Arts Show.
At least any businesses still remaining in the town may see some sort of spin-off for the two days that it’s on.
Pity they can’t redirect the funding for moving the tourist information centre across the road to reopening the caves, the museum and the Tudor House.
Entrance to the Turner Contemporary will of course be free but it seems to me that the only way to make the thing work in any sense is to be able to offer something approaching an all weather day out for the family.
Bunging everything we have left in Thanet into one package day, including the Powell Cotton Museum, Ramsgate Maritime Museum, a trip over the Cervia, Shell Grotto, Margate Museum, Margate Caves, turner Contemporary and I suppose you could just about get people in the southeast to get on the train and come down to Thanet for the day in some sort of quantity.
With manufacturing industry moving off to China years ago and now R&D moving off to India, tourism may be our last hope. Trouble is moving the complimentary leisure to Westwood Cross means that there is little for tourists to do in Thanet on a wet day.
You can see from the pictures I have resolved the issue of picture of Ken Stroud playing the organ it would seem to be undoubtedly Ramsgate marina, unfortunately demolished by the council.
Tuesday 15 March 2011
Most of my knowledge of medieval ships, thus far coming from the letters of the medieval kings to the lords warden of the cinque ports, pronounced sank, which may not be a good omen.
Not so misty today so better pictures of The Matthew or The Dawn Treader whoever she may be, still nothing on the council’s website about this important vessel though, although they can afford to move Margate tourist information centre over the road apparently. Perhaps KCC are footing the bill as I am told where the Turner Contemporary is concerned the funding is bottomless.
Here are the rest of today’s pictures http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/311/id11.htm and I will try to write something about them if I get time later.
The new house on Plains of Waterloo is continuing to go up, the Pleasurama foundations and support pillars are still going up on the wrong end of the site and not the piles that were expected, no one seems to know why. More new pictures on The Great Wall of Ramsgate as you can see. There is a dredger tied up in the harbour so we can only hope for some dredging before the harbour becomes completely dry at low water. The boat hoist is evidently working again after its experience with the pothole. The large concrete pontoons are not the new harbour barrage pontoon but they are for The London Array. Jack’s Cantina, Harvey’s Fish thing is up for sale.
Monday 14 March 2011
By medieval I am talking about the time from about the year 900 up to the year 1500 when the historical period called Tudor started. During this time this country didn’t have a navy, so the monarch made tax and other concessions to the nobility who owned the land, under the condition that they provided ships for wars and other royal visits abroad.
Ruling was much more of a hands on business in those days, and this replica of a medieval ship is well worth a look if you get a chance.
Sorry that it is misty today and the ship isn’t easily accessible, I will try to get closer and get some better pictures.
There were some other pictures on the camera’s memory card from the last few days and I have published them on the web here http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/311/id10.htm have a glance, I will too and make a few notes below.
First two are of the start of a new house being built on Plains of Waterloo, then some of the work going on, on the Pleasurama site, why they have started a year late at the other end of the site I am yet to find out. Then some of The Marina Restaurant restoration project, followed by some of the great wall of Ramsgate pictures, there are a few new ones and a lot of spaces now booked for more. Some of the empty shops in Ramsgate are having the paint and new incarnation treatment. The chap at the organ, a picture of a picture is Ken Stroud and I think he is playing organ Granville/Ramsgate Marina, from the shape of the arches, please correct me if I am wrong.
Just dealt with a bookshop customer wanted a book on dinosaurs, I didn’t quite know how to answer her question. “Haven’t you got one with photographs of dinosaurs in it?” In the shop assistant business one soon learns that you can’t please everyone.
Back to the photos, a bit of a cryptic note on the Maritime Museum, isn’t it about time TDC issued them with a lease?
Just sat down after fitting a new dishwasher, a new Chinese one was considerably cheaper than a new pump for the old German one, and read some of the local news, all was going well until this article http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/news/Witchcraft-casts-spell-growing-community/article-3301307-detail/article.html when I got to “Mr Doyle, who has his own cloak,”
I shall have to watch out for Saul, I can see “Mr Child, who has his own trousers,” is just around the corner.
Funny thing the occult books, we sell loads of them in the bookshop, no one has ever bought one back and said the spells in it didn’t work and yet no one has ever arrives by broomstick.
I may blog on if the mood takes me.
Sunday 13 March 2011
Putting my bookselling hat on for a moment, this is one of those series where the order the books were written in isn’t necessarily the order you read them in, in fact like so many things that seem simple, in this case the order to read a series of children’s books in, the subject is open to dispute, see the Wikipedia article about it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia
Anyway the third or the fifth book in this series and the third film is called “The Voyage of The Dawn Treader” and The Dawn Treader is a sailing ship that will be in Ramsgate Harbour for most of next week.
Well actually this is not exactly the case, the ship is really a replica of “The Matthew” that first sailed to America in 1497, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_(ship) this, the replica sailed to America in 1997 and was later modified to being the “The Dawn Treader” and was used for the film.
Well I suppose you are beginning to get the idea here, I think the point here is that a ship of international significance will be in Ramsgate Harbour for most of next week.
In some places the council would have made a big fuss about this, it would have been a major tourist event, however looking at the council’s various tourism related websites, they seem to have missed, forgotten about this event, perhaps it has been the subject of a government cut.
I have been trying to get across this problem to councillor Simon Moores by commenting on his blog, see http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/03/beach-races-2011.html I think the difficulty here is about making the best of what you have actually got.
In other words we are already paying for the council, to either have or contract out numerous websites to promote Thanet events. We are also paying for a whole tourism department in the council and because of this, these various websites, are the obvious place that anyone looking for an event in this area would look for it. This produces a situation where if an event doesn’t appear there prominently then people are inclined to think that there is no event.
This is partly about trust, a difficult commodity to find on the internet, where there are so many rouges already promoting things that don’t exist, something that makes people cautious and inclined to believe official websites like the council’s.
The most prominent of the council’s various webpages is their main homepage and this has a section called “Events”, now a normal person could be forgiven for thinking that the main Thanet events would be listed there and as the three of the ten events listed there are walks round one of the local churchyards in April, May and June most people I think would consider that things in Thanet are going to be a bit, well dead, for the next few months.
The fact that today there are beach motorcycle races in Margate isn’t mentioned there, nor is next weeks Dawn Treader visit, suggests an element of confusion within the council.
Staying with Thanet Life for a mo, Simon’s latest post is about the earthquake in Japan, see http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/03/high-tide.html and as I am forbidden mention of the P word there I will add some thoughts here. The major loss of life in Japan because of the earthquake, has actually been caused by the resultant tidal wave and not the earthquake itself.
Here in Kent we have a history of occasional earthquakes, fortunately much less significant or frequent than those in Japan, I think the last Kent earthquake of any significance was in 2007.
Historically we have had larger earthquakes and when one delves back into the early-confused period there is mention of catastrophe from associated tidal waves, legend has it that Isle of Lomea destroyed by earthquake, the remains of this fertile island part of the estate of the Earl of Goodwin is thought now to be the Goodwin Sands.
What we do most certainly have in this part of Kent is a history of catastrophic sea damage by tidal surge storms, the last big one of these was about 60 years ago and the loss of life was counted in the hundreds not the thousands. Update, please excuse the error 2,400 people were killed in the 1953 tidal surge storm.
All of the subsequent buildings on the foreshore take this into account and have to have flood risk assessments, this results in the Turner Contemporary, or the new building on Granville Marina in Ramsgate being raised up and behind more substantial sea defences than one would expect.
You can’t predict what will happen on any given part of our foreshore without a flood risk assessment, the exception to this rule is the Royal Sands Development on the old Pleasurama site in Ramsgate.
The Environment Agency say there should be a flood risk assessment, see http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/ea/ but the council say they have ticked the boxes and there won’t be one, as though fulfilling a series of bureaucratic rules will somehow hold back the sea.
One of this week’s great spats in the council that has leaked out onto the local blogs, has been about sandwich’s and drinks after full council meetings. For those of us with an interest in the Thanet Labour Group’s internal battle and what Labour councillors would do to improve Thanet if they get elected in May, this is something of a comedown.
Anyway two posts about this on From One End of Kent, see http://marknottingham.blogspot.com/ and a response on Thanet Life http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/03/curled-up-at-edges.html
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns, oh well they will probably soon be saying that they can’t tell us what their polices for the next four years governing Thanet are because of the pre-election purdah. Vote Labour for less sandwiches or vote Conservative for more, sounds about like what we will actually get, after four years of wasted mismanaged assets, incomprehensible websites, etc. one side will be able to say. “At lest we had more/less sandwiches.”
The Big Bignews post this week is about Margate Caves, see http://bignewsmargate.blogspot.com/2011/03/thanet-council-caves-in-on-misleading.html this is a bit of a weird scenario, when viewed from outside, it looks like a comedy of errors.
Obviously from the outside one can’t really tell what has happened here, so here is a little work of fiction about what could have happened.
The council of Spamit owns some caves and these are held by Mr Bloggs on a long lease, provided Mr Bloggs pays the rent then the lease can be renewed indefinitely, being a tourist attraction the caves produce very little in terms of money for anyone.
The land with the entrance on would produce some money if sold to a developer and ultimately if that development was residential even some council tax from the people living in it.
So Spamit council arrange for a health and safety inspection, dangerous places caves, underground gasses, think Davy Lamp, firedamp could be a problem venturing into tunnels, particularly as for over a hundred years of flatulent tourists have been there before you.
Expensive solutions caves closed no money to pay the rent, mysterious figures about the cost of gas inspectors, extra portions of beans and beer after council meetings.
More health and safety now caused by the caves being closed, dodgy people have been getting in there, so the council blocks up the entrance by filling it with rubble, how will the tourists get in, no problem say council, we have found an imaginary entrance in the wardrobe.
Sorry I got a bit carried away there it wasn't like that at all.
An interesting post on my press release blog about the closing to Ramsgate Age Concern, see http://thanetpress.blogspot.com/2011/03/closure-of-ramsgate-age-concern.html it sound a bit as though Thanet District Council may be on another of their bizarre schemes to save money. In this case charging the charity to use one of the halls in Ramsgate to look after the old people in Ramsgate.
I expect that it’s another tangled Thanet web with Ramsgate being the eventual loser.
Several local blogs have mentioned the article in the Independent saying that Margate is now a cultural hotspot, see http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/ten-topcultural-hotspots-2233435.html this seems to be due to The Turner Contemporary, below one of the videos The Turner Contemporary has posted online, just to give you a feel of what this new arts culture encompasses.
I will ramble on as the day progresses
Wednesday 9 March 2011
Tuesday 8 March 2011
Here is what I asked in red.
1 Please send me any addition information about this development that I haven’t requested below, because I am unaware of its existence.
It would appear that some work has occurred on the site during the last month, but obviously this work doesn’t relate to the development agreement schedules and conditions of the various leases contained in it.
2 Does this mean that the leases are now invalid and the development agreement is to be determined?
3 Or does it mean that there has been an updated agreement with new schedules?
If the development is going ahead, either to a new schedule or is being allowed under some other flexible arrangement:
4 Can you please supply me with a revised building schedule?
5 Can you please tell me which of the approved plans the development is to be built to and if these plans are published on the council’s planning website?
6 Can you please send me details of the public information sessions that were promised once work started on the site?
7 Can you please send me any updated information on the cliff safety issue? Details and dates of the promised cliff top weight limit, correspondence between the council, the HSE, the developer, cliff survey and maintenance schedule, any cliff survey reports, any agreements for cliff maintenance between the council and the developer.
8 Can you please send me details of any flood, storm or emergency escapes incorporated in the development as a result of the EA recommendations 8th Feb 2008.
9 If the artists impressions, details of roof material and other building materials for the building to be built, are different to those described on the councils planning website, due to the various different plans and in consequence plans being used that no longer relate to the ancillary details, can you please send me the details of these changes?
10 If the plans that are to be used no longer relate to all of the planning and design statement, can you please send me revisions to the planning and design statement?
Here is the council’s reply in blue.
Thank you for your communication received on 24/02/2011 09:00:09 where you requested information about the Pleasurama or Royal Sands deevelopment.
In response to your questions I can comment as follows:There has been some early slippage in terms of works undertaken to comply with the terms of the development agreement. The construction works are however now starting to claw back time lost earlier in the construction programme and progress is now being made on site. There is no amended agreement with the developers and no action is presently anticipated in relation to determine the development agreement, neither has there been a request for a revised build schedule. I will request a revised programme from the developer who has indicated that he will be aiming to adhere to the programme.
I will also request that the developer establishes a public information programme.No recent amendments have been proposed to the design of the building and no alterations have been made in response to the Environment Agencies correspondence with the developer in 2008. Any amendments would need to be considered through the planning process.
In 2008 and 2009 we received plans to comply with conditions of the planning permission that were approved in January 2009. These proposals did not result in material alterations to the approved building and I recall providing you with those drawings following receipt. I can confirm that no subsequent amendments have been proposed to the building since that time.
In terms of the planning and design statement I consider the scheme still complies with the principles of the original submission.I can confirm that the HSE have considered the cliff survey. In an email to the Council they have confirmed they do not intend to pursue this matter. They have requested that the Council draws up a programme and regime for the future maintenance of the cliff face. This matter is in hand.
The idea here is that the council leases the land to the developer under the condition that he builds the development according to a time schedule laid down by the council.
Back in October 2006 the council and the developer signed this agreement that had been drawn up by the council’s solicitors, here it is http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/pda/id5.htm
This agreement says when each part of the development should have started and when it should have finished.
Obviously this all has to be agreed with the council and is discussed at cabinet and then full council if the cabinet approve the development.
Anyway the developer didn’t fulfil the obligations of the development agreement, didn’t start and finish the various bits of the agreement when they should have done and didn’t come up with the money to protect the council if anything went wrong, the performance bond.
So the council officers put the issue before the cabinet again in 2009, with a recommendation from the head of finance that they should terminate the agreement.
Anyway the cabinet decided that the development should go ahead with a reduced financial guarantee and the council’s solicitors drew up a deed of variation from the terms of the original agreement with a new set of schedules, here it is http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/pda/id17.htm
This says on page 10 that the foundations should have been finished by August last year and that the first bit, the hotel (section A) should have its structural frame going up now.
This means that they should be putting up the framework at the end of the site where the Pavilion and the lift are. When I put in this request nothing had happened in terms of any foundations or construction on the site and between putting in the request and getting the answer today 6 foundations and six building support pillars have been put at the other end of the site.
There have been several newspaper articles about the site
are a couple of examples, over the years they have been signs that there is about to be more council activity and more delays. So last weeks Gazette article saying that the foundations had actually been laid when they obviously haven’t has put me on my guard.
Sunday 6 March 2011
I have added two new ones to the latest posts on other blogs wosisname on the sidebar this week although you may have to click on the “show all” link at the bottom of it to find them now.
The first one was “the wonderful world of me” this has some close-up pictures of the whale that died and was washed up at Pegwell Bay. The pictures are a bit gory and not for the squeamish, see http://whalepegwell.blogspot.com/2011/03/truth-about-whale-at-pegwell-bay.html
The other one is called “From One Arse in Kent” http://onearseinkent.blogspot.com/ as I assume this is a parody of “From One End of Kent” it could be an offering from the Tory party at crypt, but who knows.
This blog asks a question about the significance of being a lifetime member of The Campaign for Real Ale at £360 I suspect the answer may be well healed.
On to the longer established local blogs.
Councillor Simon Moores’s Thanet Life
Having had a bit of a handbags at dawn with our local aviator that seems to have left me, persona non grata there, but not really knowing why, I haven’t commented there since the event.
I suppose I should have remembered the words of that other well known pilot, Pussy galore who said “I’m immune to charm.”
Here is quote from his last comment on his own blog. “A council exists to provide services, collect taxes and encourage development etc where grants and such like allow. It can force any business in a particular direction if it doesn't wish to trade there.” One wonders if this a typo and he meant, [the council] can’t force any business in a particular direction. Or if this relates to something he knows and we don’t.
Well the spat is on both our blogs at http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/02/lost-in-translation.html then http://thanetonline.blogspot.com/2011/03/thanet-life-simon-moores-moves.html then http://birchington.blogspot.com/2011/03/freedom-to-debate.html and certainly attracted a lot of interest if my blog stats are anything to go by.
Mark really has a peculiar situation as he is walking around the huge and naked emperor of the post he deleted and the subject that we would all like to know more about, the internal wrangle in the local Labour group.
With the added website http://marknottingham.net/ it looks as though Mark may be going critical. There are very few non professional conventional Thanet websites, by this I mean where the person it relates to actually has had a go at writing and maintaining the thing themselves. In the battle between Wordpress and Mark it is still early days but technically it looks as though Mark is just about winning, as someone who has their own conventional website, that I write, I have to say I take my hat of to him for having a go.
From my position of ignorance that is just based on living in an area with a high concentration of housing association property, this looks like a huge experiment in social engineering gone wrong.
History will tell I suppose, but a large concentration of DHSS and dog, with no extra support seems ill advised.
I am obviously losing the plot here so will change subject, if I missed your blog it was to preserve anything that remains of my sanity.
Looking back over the last eight years of Conservative rule at TDC I wonder what local history will record as their crowning achievement.
Historically local government in this country started as a battle of people standing for council to prevent money being spent on essential safety issues. In mid Victorian times drainage and water supply were the serious issues, queen Victoria caught cholera in Ramsgate, the battle raged over the expense of solving the well near the toilet issue. Sometime in about 1850 the government stepped in and introduced legislation that allowed them to take over and force the issue. Our towns had become middens and there was nowhere safe to dig a well that wasn’t contaminated. Somewhere towards the end of the 1800s the councils in individual towns settled down to going beyond basic public safety and improving the towns.
Funny thing democracy, it really isn’t that old in this country I know votes for men came before votes for women but it very much is a thing of the modern world, the Spinning Jenny and gas lighting both came before even ordinary men got the vote in the UK. It didn’t come that long after income tax, taxation without representation is always an uphill struggle, as we all know local taxation means local representation.
Now to an extent, as the internet has come along and there really isn’t any long term need for representation, theoretically any private individual could put forward any new legislation, policy or proposed changes online and we could all vote on each issue from our own homes. There isn’t really any technical difficulty here and the need for representation is a matter of convention rather than one of necessity.
Perhaps concerns over elected representatives or even the majority of civil servants could be replaced by the ability to decide issues, should one want to from one’s pc.
A bookselling note here relating to the series on BBC2 of 'Great British Railway Journeys' with Michael Portillo.
Bradshaw's Guide mentioned in the series is actually the monthly timetable issued between 1839 and 1960, the book Mr Portillo is using is, Bradshaw's Handbook for Tourists in Great Britain & Ireland. It was issued in four sections in 1866 and most copies sold were single regional sections.
Not an easy book to obtain and expensive if you find it.
Saturday 5 March 2011
The article is available online, here http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/where/thanet/Penthouse-view-soccer-stars/article-3291098-detail/article.html it says other things, all of which I have to belive:
Para 2 “The Premiership aces were particularly taken with architectural drawings” I too started to get particularly taken by them back in 2004 to 2007 see http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/tdc/id30.htm and was last taken by them the other day see http://thanetonline.blogspot.com/2011/02/royal-sands-pleasurama-development.html
Para 4 says “Although the foundations have been laid and work is well under way, the developers were forced to tell both stars they did not have the legal paperwork ready to sell flats” There was me thinking that the foundations hadn’t been laid, silly me. As the development agreement says the foundations have to have been finished by now, or the lease on the site is forfeit and now the local paper says that the foundations have been laid, then I suppose they must be. That’s intrepid investigative journalism for you, they obviously managed to find the foundations that I couldn’t, as the development is supposed to be much bigger than The Turner Contemporary and I have evidently missed the foundations, please accept my apologies for the oversight.
Perhaps the phrase, “Although the foundations have been laid” is being used in a more metaphorical way here as the last 3 paragraphs seem to concur more closely with what I have seen.
Here is news to me about the delays though “Work only began two months ago after a security bond (money the council would get if the work is not finished) was reduced from £5.6 million to £1.6 million.” I thought this happened ages ago and the delays were for some other reason completely like problems with the cliff, oh well it’s nice to know that’s all sorted.
All it takes is a bit of investigative journalism to find out what’s really going on with this development.