Swimming Pool and Lido Photos Ramsgate and Margate

 I think most of these should expand fairly well with a bit clicking and so on as I would doubt any of them were lifted off of other sites. Important as the devil is in the detail with this type of local history.

 The railway around the outside of Ramsgate Marina Swimming Pool was for the construction crane, so you can be pretty sure of the date, it opened in 1935, this of course - especially if you can see the detail, helps with dating some of the others

The big question surrounding the pool is, why did it close? Personally I think this is mostly a temperature related thing, and base this on having been in it, I would say swum swam wosisname, however my series of doggy paddle, floating and whatnot is probably best described as delayed drowning, but the main problem there is the water was very cold.

Perhaps not an issue back in the 1930s when the pool first opened as I think heated public swimming pools started to appear in the UK just before WW2, but didn’t really become common until the 1960s. I think the same can be said for heaters in cars, the first cars I could afford dated from the 1940s and 50s and mostly didn’t have heaters, meaning you and the windscreen froze while right next to you was a radiator full of boiling water.

And while yes you can heat outdoor swimming pools, I think those like the Ramsgate one that used constantly changing filtered seawater to keep the contents clean enough to swim in would be prohibitively expensive to heat.  

Of course there are plenty of people who would pay to swim in an unheated seawater swimming pool next to the sea, we used to when we were children, but I think the main reason for the closure was that there just weren’t enough of them in 1976 when the repair bill was fairly large and it closed for good.

I think another aspect was the closure of the high diving board, which was one of the pool’s main attractions, so there is a safety elf element.

Then there are the rumours.

Some say it was a council blunder that damaged Ramsgate marina swimming pool so badly it could never be used again. The story goes that some bright council officer decided to take the running of it from the borough engineers and give it to the councils leisure department. The sceptical engineers handed it to the leisure department with a set of instructions about running and maintaining it, one of which was never to empty it without supporting the seaward facing side. This was because it was designed so the weight of the water inside counteracted the forces of the sea battering against it. The first thing the leisure department did when they took it over was to empty it unsupported. In the resulting cover up councillors were told that the damage was caused bomb during WW2 that had weakened the structure.

Some say the problem was the old design of the building and that the pool was actually on 'stilts' and you could walk underneath it at low tide. As the tide came in the void was filled with seawater. The dated building measures made this a fatal design fault. Gradually the chalk below began to erode, and as a result the foundations moved, causing the pool to crack. This was patched for years until repairs were impossible. It was also too expensive to replace.

Some say that the chalk at sea edge was excavated deliberately and that the council failed to stop this.

There is plenty of information on the internet about Ramsgate Marina Bathing Pool. 

A good article on the Lost Lidos site at http://www.lostlidos.co.uk/2015/05/16/ramsgate-marina-pool/

I think Ramsgate Historical Society Facebook group has the best article and album of photos at https://www.facebook.com/pg/ramsgatehistorical/photos/?tab=album&album_id=147172528674194

 On the blogging front, things are becoming progressively more difficult and I think this is mainly due to the lack of advertising, unless of course you count the pictures of the books we put out in Michael's Bookshop here in Ramsgate.
here is the link to them

I think the bottom line is that I may have to come up with different approach for people to find stuff posted here with Google search engine.

Only a few pictures from this evening's after work walk, mostly windsurfing
here is the link 

 Cliftonville Lido was the other one of the Thanet seawater pools, and once again the main attraction was the diving board. I think today the council spend as much money on staff preventing people from diving as the once did on staff facilitating it.

 Years ago I worked on the lido complex for a bit, this was around the period the pool part closed after various attempts to make it useful for something including topless sunbathing.

Cliftonville 1932, Northdown Road Cliftonville Margate Photos now and in 2011 and Margate High Street in 2011

Clifton Baths Estate Leslie Fuller's PED'LERS... published today

Interesting little booklet this one, lots of photos, Lido, Dreamland and Dumpton Greyhound Track. Price £2.99 although not on our website yet.

Mostly Cliftonville Lido interesting to me as I worked there in the distant past. Not sure if that was advertising, bit of a tricky area.

On to Photos of Northdown Road, is it going up down or sideways?

Here are the links to the  pictures I took on Saturday 3^rd June 2017

http://michaelsbookshop.com/northdownroad2017/

http://michaelsbookshop.com/northdownroad2017/id3.htm


 Back in August 2009 I took a series of pictures of Northdown Road in Margate, below are the links to the pages of pictures I took then.

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad/index.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad/id3.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad/id4.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad/id5.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad/id9.htm

In May 2011 I didn’t do it quite so comprehensively, I only did the middle bit, these links take you to those pictures.

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad2/

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad2/id3.htm

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/NorthdownRoad2/id4.htm

Election wise anyone one care to answer the question: which parliamentary constituency Northdown Road is in? Is it in Roger Gale's Thanet North or is it in Craig McKinley's Thanet South? Any 2017 parliamentary candidate standing in the constituency containing Cliftonville Lido, can have a free copy of the book if the care to pay me a visit. n.b the bookshop is closed sunday and thursdays, so I am not here then.

here are the 2011 Margate High Street ones

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/MargateHighStreetMay2011/  

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/MargateHighStreetMay2011/id3.htm

 

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/MargateHighStreetMay2011/id5.htm

Cliftonville Lido Complex going up for auction and I mess with music books.

It seems Sour Side Investments are flogging the Lido here are the details http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-53415742.html

Freehold

Lot 161 - This lot is for sale by auction as lot 161 on 30th March 2016.

A Freehold Terrace of Buildings Occupying a Site extending to Approximately 0.729 Hectares (1.802 Acres)

- Comprising two Nightclubs and a Separate Bar

- Possible Potential for Development subject to obtaining all necessary consents

- Close to sea front and with sea views

Description

The property comprises a terrace of buildings arranged over three basement levels, ground and first floors. The buildings are internally arranged to provide a bar and two nightclubs. There is a large car park to the front. The property benefits from direct sea views.

Accommodation

Cliff Bar 327.8 sq m(3,529 sq ft)Middle Floor - Former Nightclub962.3 sq m(10,358 sq ft)Lower Ground Floor Nightclub486.7 sq m(5,239 sq ft)Site Area Approximately0.729 Hectares(1.802 Acres)

The property may afford potential for both residential and commercial redevelopment subject to all necessary consents being obtained.

Just the thing if you are into corrugated Caribbean. 

Meanwhile back at the bookshop we have been hard at it pricing new stock, here it is http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/the-dead-sea-scrolls-in-bookshop.html I don’t really understand sheet music, but as pretty much all of the shops that sell it seem to have gone I am giving it a go. My taste is pretty eclectic and as the internet prices seem to be all over the place I have basically just guessed the prices so there may be some extreme bargains to be had while I learn the ropes.  

Pictorial Amusement Guide to Margate circa 1930

The reprint of the little guide published today focuses on three Thanet attractions, Dreamland in Margate, The Lido in Ciftonville and The Greyhound Racing Track at Dumpton Park Ramsgate. I am assuming that it was produced as free promotional material funded by the organisations.

The print quality of the original is very poor, owing much to the potato school of printing, we have done our best to enhance the quality in this reprint.

The original guide was about half the page size of the the reprint about A6 size, I would guess its date to be around 1930 although I expect that Margate historians will be able to come up with a more accurate date.

I hope you will all find this a useful addition to my range of local history publications.

Click on the link to buy it http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/catalogue/pictorial_amusement_guide_to_margate.htm £2.99 post free in the UK, or pick it up next time you are in my bookshop in Ramsgate.

Click on this link for sample pages http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/610/id27.htm