Sunday, 14 February 2010

Valentines day ramble and more old Ramsgate pictures.


This picture looking up the road with White & Ellis to the right is not High Street as stated it is Harbour Street.

To all of you that sent me valentines card, thank you, but I should point out that I am happily married.

The main visual theme of this post are a new batch of old Ramsgate pictures that a customer of mine scanned from the Ramsgate library collection before the library burnt down and publishing to the web, I am hoping that we will conspire in a book of them soon.

An interesting thought here about using other people’s pictures to illustrate blog posts is that the pictures you see here are not actually published on this blog.
Anyway click on the link for the rest of the pictures http://my-ramsgate.blogspot.com/p/ramsgate-photo-collection.html



Benton's Cash Stores is number 5 Ashburnham Road

What is happening instead is that the html code on this blog is telling your web browser to display the pictures on his website.

For me this raises some interesting questions about the way copyright can be applied on the internet.

A bit of a reflection on the weeks blogging something that started off for me with the incredible amount of money that KCC are prepared to spend on running the Turner Contemporary.

To be honest I am a bit of a slow thinker, one reason I think that I couldn’t get on with twitter, one of the things that I like about blogger is that I can read something and let my feeling about it coalesce, sometimes even sleep on it before responding.

This picture of number 58 High Street was Mr Snowden's (the town's formost surgeon) residence until 1867 after which it became a skating rink then George Sanger built his ampitheatre now Argos. The picture was taken from Hardres Street looking across towards George Street. The picture states Church Hill this is incorrect Church Hill runs from St. George's down to number 91 High Street a good 100 yards further up.
I think the biggest problem I have with government heavily funding much of modern art is that when the majority of people have to be told that something is art, rather than just recognising it is such, then that art is elitist.

One way or another my bookshop has become one of the last remaining large secondhand bookshops in Kent, most of the others that remain are either, very expensive and aimed mostly at the collectors market, too small to have enough stock to be worth a regular visit or are buildings full of books most of which are of the sort of quality that one find at a jumble sale or in a charity shop.

I have always aimed at having the sort of stock that one would expect to find in a quality bookshop selling new books at the full price, but my stock is for the most part secondhand and at secondhand prices.

What this means is that as the recession bites I am seeing more customers from further away, as far as I can make out this is partly because of bookshop closures in other parts of the southeast and partly because more people are buying secondhand because of the recession.

Now when people are buying a non-fiction book they are registering their interest in a subject with their own money, and from this I am able to get a fairly good idea of where people’s interests lie across the county.

I can say without a doubt that the subject that interests the people of Kent the most is history, with the people interested in ultra modern art being about one in a thousand of those interested in history.

So with local government at the moment seemingly intent on closing government funded museums while pouring money into funding modern art, that is only art to those who are told it is art, seems to me to be somewhat incongruous.

In Ramsgate the situation seems to have reached a ridiculous situation where the council isn’t even being asked to fund the maritime museum, but still seems to be doing its best to force the museum’s closure.

Perhaps this is because the people at the council are made from the tiny elite that considers a group of people waling round in circles to be art. Perhaps somewhere within local government is a ministry of Silly walks.



Well Canterbury City Council are the most recent to consider closing their museums, something that makes me wonder if they have any understanding of how ordinary people consider cuts should be made.

The people who I talk to consider for the most parts that local government cuts should start with the highly paid local government officers and the enormous local government pension commitments.




Personally I think that some sort of decision needs to be made about what should be the maximum salary and the maximum pension for local government officers.

We then come to the snow, as far as I can see from personal experience the council just didn’t use enough salt.

Here in Ramsgate two thing were most notable, one being that they didn’t use any more salt on the hills than on the roads that were relatively flat and the other was they didn’t use salt on the pavements or the pedestrianised part of the town centre at all where they used sand instead.

The net result of this was to bring the town’s economy virtually to a halt, what with that and the closure of most of the schools for a day the cost must have been colossal.

Quite a bit of both the blogging and the news recently has been about standards in public life, nationally the MPs expenses issue and locally the kitten issue.

It must be obvious to the people at all levels in government that the standards that electorate are prepared to accept are not those that the people in government had assumed.

Certainly for me that the only way that a councillor is automatically removed from office for committing a criminal offence, is if that councillor is sentenced to three months in prison, seems a bit rich.




Grange Road Mill An early mill stood at Ramsgate in 1719. Then, in 1819, as evidenced by the early Ordnance Map, there were two standing. One of them must have disappeared many years ago, for the 1858 map does not show it and there was no sign of it in 1905 although remaining mill was still there, by 1930 the body of the remaining mill was completely gone and the wreckage of the base alone remained. This base was then being used as a motor garage. Its “black-timbered walls are smothered with advertisement posters. Grimy mechanics grapple with cars in its bowels.” To quote William Coles Finch the notable antiquary and mill historian.
Ludicrously as the councillor would be removed for failing to attend council meetings for three months, even this doesn’t seem to send out the message that there is some crime that would be bad enough to exclude someone from office.

What is needed is a major clean up of government with the electorate deciding what they want by referendum, both to decide what sort of political reform we want and at what level of unacceptable behaviour people should be dismissed from public office.

At the moment we seem to have a situation where we have a group of people governing us who appear to think they are above the law and that this group of people seem also to think is should be them who decide both how they are elected and what standard they should uphold once elected.

Many thanks to Terry for providing me with corrections for the wrongly captioned pictures, I have added the corrections in red and some notes on the mill one.

Friday, 12 February 2010

Thanet councillor Ted Watt-Ruffell resigns

Thanet District Council Conservative group have just announced that they have accepted the resignation of councillor Ted Watt-Ruffell.

Update I just phoned TDC for confirmation that he has resigned and the said that they weren’t prepared to comment at this time, well either he has gone or he hasn’t, anyone know?

I believe we are in a sort of impasse where he has resigned from the Conservative group but hasn’t yet resigned as a councillor, could he stay on, the mind boggles really.

Oh yes and here are today’s pictures, not that many as it was so slippery that I didn’t get very far and was spending much of my time trying to avoid being run over on the roads where the pavements were impassable.

http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/Blogpicts1210/id9.htm

SAVE Ramsgate’s Adelaide Gardens’ urges National Heritage Body

One of Britain’s leading heritage organisations has given its support to residents of Ramsgate’s Adelaide Gardens/Liverpool Lawn Conservation Area as they resist plans to close off the southern end of Adelaide Gardens with a three-storey terrace of 7 pastiche Georgian/‘Gothick’ houses.



Early last week (February 8) SAVE Britain’s Heritage e-mailed TDC Case Officer Doug Brown with detailed objections to a proposed application by Thanet developer DJ Ellis Construction Ltd.. The application is due to be discussed by the TDC Planning Committee on Wednesday February 17, but so far there has been no reference to the SAVE representations in official TDC briefing documents prepared for the meeting.

In their letter of objection, SAVE points out that the Adelaide Gardens site is one of the most sensitive in Ramsgate, situated within a Ramsgate conservation area with Grade II listed- late Georgian buildings to either side of the site. SAVE maintains that the proposed development would completely enclose the southern end of Adelaide Gardens and alter an historic line of existing Georgian buildings, contrary to planning guidance rules that stipulate that new developments in conservation areas should seek to ‘preserve or enhance’ the historic pattern.

SAVE Britain’s Heritage is one of the country’s principal conservation amenity organisations. It was set up in 1975, the European Year of Architectural Heritage, under the presidency of Marcus Binney, the Architecture Editor of The Times and a leading architectural historian. Since then SAVE has been extremely active in focussing attention on historic buildings at risk and on historic sites – such as Adelaide Gardens - which might be subject to inappropriate development.

Russell White, Chair of the Adelaide Gardens/Liverpool Lawn Residents’ Association said ‘The many residents of Ramsgate’s historic West Cliff area who object to these inappropriate development plans for Adelaide Gardens are extremely pleased to have the support of this eminent national heritage organisation. Like SAVE, the residents accept that there is a case for new development on this site, but believe that the current proposed scheme is too large in terms of footprint, bulk and scale’.

Contacts:
Russell White (e-mail: russue@talktalk.net)
Andrew Joynes (e-mail: andrewjoynes@tiscali.co.uk )
Ed. More pictures of this part of Ramsgate here http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/laptop3/id12.htm you will have to scroll down the page a bit.
If you want to see this for yourself, please visit http://www.ukplanning.com/thanet F/TH/09/0915
Having spent quite a while looking at the plans, it took me quite a while to figure out what is being proposed, so this link takes you to before and after pictures http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/Blogpicts1210/id8.htm

Channel Dash Memorial Unveiling Today at 2 pm Ramsgate harbour.

Just a timely reminder that Admiral the Lord Boyce will be unveiling this memorial today.

This memorial is to the18 young airmen who took six Fairey Swordfish torpedo bombers to attack three heavily protected German warships in the English Channel during WW2.

There will also be an HMS Raider type 2000 fast patrol at the harbour from 10.30am to take the relatives of the airmen out to sea to scatter their ashes.

Thursday, 11 February 2010

Severe Snow and some pictures of Ramsgate in the snow today.

The picture is of The Plains of Waterloo this morning, bit of an odd name for a road I know, it’s on the main Thanet bus route and is impassable to all but 4x4s.

Obviously there are no busses running, several of the cars that have tried to drive down it this morning have gone completely out of control, so far there hasn’t been a major accident.

Minor update here 11.30 am, still no sign of any grit, I haven’t been able to go out and take any pictures as vehicles are still sliding down the hill out of control and there is a very real possibility that one may crash into the bookshop, some nearly did last night but the curb outside stopped them.
Many thanks to Lawrence who sent me some pictures of the snow in Ramsgate click on the link for them http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/laptop210/id4.htm
I think they probably did put some salt on the hill in front of the bookshop either that or it has turned into slush of its own accord.

Either way it is still fairly dangerous and the cars are still slipping on it, the busses haven’t braved it yet so I think it was probably a case of not enough salt on the hill.

A few more pictures of Ramsgate in the snow here http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/laptop210/id5.htm as I suspect there will be a lot of people who can’t get out for a walk due to the slippery conditions.

Oh incidentally if anyone sends me any Thanet pictures I am always happy to put them on the web, if you are concerned about copyright please let me know what you want me to say with them.

As far as my pictures are concerned my objective is to preserve as much record of Thanet as possible, so help yourselves, decorate your blogs websites, whatever you like with them, mention me if you want to.

Wednesday, 10 February 2010

Snow in Ramsgate and a bit of a ramble

As you can see from the pictures we have had a fair amount of snow here in Ramsgate today.

At the moment the busses are running cautiously but roads and pavements are fairly slippery.
My peculiar fracas over photographing Westwood Cross made it into Your Thanet today see http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?pbid=84956776-5fe0-4064-a733-83aabf1dd4b7 and http://thanetonline.blogspot.com/2010/01/photography-banned-at-westwood-cross.html for my blog post about it.

As some of you may have read the report and wondered how to get to all the pictures that I have taken of this area, here’s how.

You will find as you scroll down some of the posts on this blog – about a third I should think – have links to pictures in them, when you get to the bottom of the page of posts if you click where it says older posts another page of posts will appear also with links to pictures.

In many cases I have used historic pictures of Thanet to illustrate posts, in most cases clicking on the picture will make it enlarge.
There are over 1,000 posts so the whole process could take a while.
I managed to find the results of the public consultation about the maritime museum on the councils website, here they are.

“Maritime Museum
Consultation summary
Just over 200 representations were made. The majority opposed disposal and wanted to see the site retained as a museum. The importance of Ramsgate’s maritime history/heritage, architecture of the building, location of the building, tourism and education were the main reasons for objection to the sale. Those who did support the proposal to sell would only agree based on appropriate future use of the site.

Response to consultation
Total representations: 207

Councillors: 10

Public: 197

200 oppose disposal
7 support disposal based on appropriate future use”
I suppose that this says a great deal about council consultations.

The council consults.

The council doesn’t like the results of the consultation.

The council agrees to the findings of the consultation.

The council then makes it impossible for the results of the consultation to actually happen.
Considering today that a senior Labour politician tried to use the British judicial system to cover up information about American armed forces torturing a British subject, I am beginning to wonder when the special relationship became the special grovel.

Coming back to my thought about Westwood Cross, not so much the photography, but the general way in which we are developing areas in shopping, leisure and commerce with its own laws, surveillance and police.

I was talking to an elderly couple in the shop just now, who had read the Your Thanet article and said that as they become older and more scatterbrained, that they are also becoming increasingly concerned, that they are going to inadvertently break some law or another and become the victims of some form of under regulated “security” with no compassion or common sense.

Tuesday, 9 February 2010

Ramsgate Maritime Museum closure update

I noticed that the Maritime museum was no longer open for part of the week and so contacted Preston Steam Trust who are responsible for it.

They told me that the council had stopped responding to their requests to finalise their lease and so they couldn’t really do anything but close the museum until they heard from the council.

This is a great pity as the museum had plans for a series of events throughout the summer, and the people involved in these would need booking now and the organisation of these would need to take place in the winter.

They had also hoped to use the winter both to do essential repair work to the museum (last time I was there I nearly put my foot through the floor in the office) and to expand the area in the Clock House available to display exhibits.

Obviously they can’t do any of this without some sort of security of tenure.

I rather got the impression that they were becoming disheartened by the continual series of delays while the council stall the issue.

Another problem for the steam trust is that they can’t get any grant money without security of tenure for the Clock House.

My understanding of the situation and please correct this if I am wrong, is that the steam trust offered to either lease the Clock House from the council or to buy it outright from the council, with a clause in the sale documents that the building had to be used as a museum in perpetuity.

The council then offered them a 99 year lease to which the steam trust agreed.

The council then put the building on the asset disposal list, Ramsgate people and the local paper made a fuss, answered the consultation that they wanted the building kept as a museum and in the end the council took it of the asset disposal list.

Now we all thought that this was the end of the story and that we were going to get our museum, this no longer seems to be the case.

I asked the council what on earth is going on and here is the answer that I got.

“The position regarding the Clock-Tower Building, occupied by the Steam Trust is as follows. The subject was discussed by the Council’s Overview and Scrutiny (Asset Management Working Party) in view of the length of lease sought by the Trust.

The Working Party concluded that the long term future of the Clock-Tower Building should be considered within the context of the Port and Marina Masterplan. The point being that the structure is part of the Port Estate, and therefore its future should be considered in the context of how it contributes to Port and Marina business and operation.”

I take this to mean that as the council that now has plans afoot to get an outside commercial organisation in to run the port and harbour they would like to hang on to this iconic building, in case if they find a company to run the harbour, that company fancies this iconic building for their offices.

Oh and yes I nearly forgot here are today’s pictures http://www.michaelsbookshop.com/blogpicts1210/id5.htm

Monday, 8 February 2010

Margate and the Turner Contemporary April Fool.

The trust that is to take over running The Turner Contemporary on April fools day are to receive at least a million pounds a year from Kent County Council towards the gallery’s £2.6 million pounds annual running costs.

As I said in yesterdays post it’s a substantial amount and having slept on this information I can only conclude I have made some mistake with the arithmetic, I would appreciate it if someone could correct me.

My understanding is that the gallery is expected to attract 160,000 visitors a year, this seems quite a lot to me as this would about 400 a day if the gallery opened every day of the year, but let that pass for a moment.

If the annual running costs are to be £2.6 million that is about £16 per visit, obviously no one will have to pay to visit the gallery, if they did virtually no one would visit it.

Looking at it another way every visitor to the gallery is going to cost the Kent council taxpayer over £5.

It may have just been me but on the occasions that I have visited the exhibitions that they put on in the old M&S building and the Droit House there have either been very few other people there or no one but myself.

Let us suppose that only 100 people a day visit the new gallery this would cost £64 per visitor, with the council picking up the tab for the amount that couldn’t be obtained from other sponsors.

I am sure that I must have made some sort of mistake here, I know that there is an element of the emperor’s new clothes to the world of contemporary art but I don’t think this can be right.

Margate Marine Bathing Pool Walk from Hugh Kermode on Vimeo.

I have added this video as the Turner Contemporary are seeking participants in an artwork that they are sponsoring next month and I thought it would interest some of the readers of this post.

Here is the link to the page about this particular artwork on the Turner Contemporary site http://www.turnercontemporary.org/whatson/?p=153 particularly interesting to me as it has the link to the video I have embedded above on it.

Now when I embedded it, it had been viewed between 0 and 2 times a day for the last week, in the hour since I embedded it, it has had a further 6 views.

This says two things about the Turner Contemporary, one being that far fewer people are looking at their website than this one and whoever added the video to their site didn’t seem to know how to embed a video so just added a link.