Tuesday, 25 July 2017

Walking Ramsgate Meridian Line, working up to summarising the Manston consultation and the relationship between Marie Antoinette's Petit Théâtre de la Reine and Ramsgate’s Royal Victoria Pavilion.

That sort of a day today, it started with a fairly long chat with a chap who is working on the decoration of the newly restored Royal Victoria Pavilion which was ostensibly based on the Little Theatre of Versailles which was built for Marie Antoinette.

Thinking about what Ramsgate was like in 1904 and why a new building would be built in that style, the type of person a Ramsgate tourist would have been made up most of my morning.

There are very few pictures of the inside of the pavilion around the time it first opened, but here are the ones I have on file.

The Manston consultation having passed it’s deadline I had aimed to do a summary of how it went but I am having difficulty finding any responses from any individual or group supporting the application, so any help on that front would be appreciated. 

As part of the Ramsgate Festival http://ramsgatefestival.org/ the Ramsgate meridian has been painted on the ground. This is a complex thing to do with time, navigation and Ramsgate Clock House.

Back in the 1700s one of the cutting edges of science and technology was working out where you are which as a fair amount to do with what the time is and those imaginary lines that go from the north pole to the south pole called meridians.

As late as the 1960s when I was a sort of mechanic there was a brass plate set in the ground outside The Clock House with the Ramsgate Meridian on it.

Inside the clock house there was also a curved brass track set in the upstairs floor which had a relationship with a hole in the wall and some piece of lost apparatus that somehow ran along the brass track and was positioned so light from heavenly bodies fell on it.

The mystery surrounding the business with light, apparatus and now lost or stolen brass parts is something like that surrounding Stonehenge, different people have different stories and sometimes the brass plated are confused. 

Of course when it comes to science involving light as a mechanic of sorts, the options are ignorance, insanity or dishonesty.

Finally a caption for one of my Canterbury photos

Jane didn’t expect such spectacular results when she used the tinder box after eating a bag of Werther's original sugar free  

Finally this is the link to the books that went out in my bookshop today


  1. Just had this comment by email

    Good evening Michael

    Saw your post about the meridian line.

    Unfortunately I can't comment on the blog as I don't have any of the forms of online identity that seem to be needed.

    I am surprised to hear of your recollections of an exterior brass plate marking the meridian. My predecessor at the museum, Robert Matkin, was something of an expert on the building and neither he, nor harbourmasters Captains Sey, Finn or Grieve (the latter an expert on navigation) were aware of it. I don't suppose you have a photo of it?

    The interior meridian line was not curved - just a straight line with a groove to take a sliding gnomon and marked to take readings at set times of year thus calculate an average (mean) time of solar noon at Ramsgate. Near the south window in June, near the north wall in winter.

    It was me who researched the surviving records of the meridian at Kew. Did you know that, in what is now the back yard of the Custom House/Queens Head, there was a 'repeater station' where the assistant harbour master could also take rudimentary readings with a simple sundial?

    Fascinated by the artistic recognition of the experiment and wish I was in Ramsgate to take part.



  2. I don't think the meridian line was Brass I think it was a more expensive metal which like a lot of things around Ramsgate at that time disappeared taken by a corrupt council sold and kept.

  3. Hi Michael,
    Been in Southern Italy recently and there were a couple of these set in floors of Neapolitan Palaces. The small hole in the wall targeted sunlight at midday to a point on the line indicating the time of year. A photo of one in the now Archaeological Museum is included in a blog by Jodrell Bank's Tim O'Brien - http://proftimobrien.com/tag/naples/.

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Comments, since I started writing this blog in 2007 the way the internet works has changed a lot, comments and dialogue here were once viable in an open and anonymous sense. Now if you comment here I will only allow the comment if it seems to make sense and be related to what the post is about. I link the majority of my posts to the main local Facebook groups and to my Facebook account, “Michael Child” I guess the main Ramsgate Facebook group is We Love Ramsgate. For the most part the comments and dialogue related to the posts here goes on there. As for the rest of it, well this blog handles images better than Facebook, which is why I don’t post directly to my Facebook account, although if I take a lot of photos I am so lazy that I paste them directly from my camera card to my bookshop website and put a link on this blog.