Tuesday, 16 January 2018

More local pictures and more Manston DCO Consultation

Pictures first, these should expand well if you click on them, Manston at the bottom as it is rather depressing.  

My plan today was to try and understand the RSP plans for an airfreight hub at Manston and to engage in some sort of dialogue with people who support the plans.

I was assuming that there would be people who were trying to read the documents and work out what RSP are saying and whether they support what RSP want to do.

I think the starting point is reading the non-technical summery, as it opens on the RSP website as pictures of the document I have re published it online as a document that should open straight away in your browser as a searchable document here is the link https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_1J5B8dPSIOu6zHFXZaIY6Zi1iO7cXpZ    

I have tried opening it in a number of different browsers and it works OK for me. You can of course go to the RSP website and download it to your device, which should make it searchable, however opening in your browser using the link above, means the big computer at Google should help your device.

The thing that worries me most about this document is that it says the air pollution from the freight hub will kill people.

Where? I hear you ask. This is a 25 page document numbered pages 1 to 22 with blue purple and greeny yellow page markers in the top left hand corner of the pages and it says it on the page RSP have numbered 19, here is the quote.

“There is health evidence drawn from the scientific literature that allows potential impacts on mortality and rates of certain diseases due to changes in noise and air pollutant exposure to be predicted quantitatively (in numerical terms). The scientific evidence shows that, depending on the level of noise or air pollution concentration, these may affect diseases of the heart, lungs and circulation system, mental health and wellbeing, and the overall risk of premature death. Whether there is a health risk and the magnitude of any impact on public health depends on the size of change in noise or air pollution and the population affected.”

Then there is the business with the local plan which RSP are trying to get rejected, it’s a complex issue and it sounds that if it gets rejected it will cost TDC which I think translates either into more bill or less services for us.

Having had a fair amount of unusual internet discussion, along the lines of – why are you making up this stuff about RSP? – Oh well we’ve die sometime, I think we need a better local internet forum.

The profusion of local Facebook groups works up to a point, I think the blogs probably worked better before they were destroyed by the spam commentators, so any ideas on that one?

The internet is becoming increasingly focused on making money which doesn’t help.

My guess is that having gone on the internet to find out about bananas, half an hour of attempts to sell you monkeys can make you a bit annoyed.

Here are the photos of the books we put out today http://michaelsbookshop.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/love-lies-bleeding-in-bookshop.html


  1. I can't imagine there are many people who have the time or energy to wade through the badly presented guff which RSP have published. The online versions of the documents are unwieldy and don't seem to be put together in any logical order. The complete lack of any form of index makes it impossible to search the documents and, even when I have found relevant sections there is little information of substance. I'm rapidly reaching the conclusion that RSP's documents are intended to give the illusion of an environmental report but do not contain critical information which would be required for a meaningful consultation. I've not been able to find the business plan with details of the size and scale of the development they are proposing, let alone any definitive information about the numbers of night flights which are being planned. On the Manston Pickle Facebook page they have published some very worrying information which shows that RSP is seeking permission for more night flights than Heathrow or Luton.

  2. Like you Michael, I'd like somewhere online where the pro's and con's could be discussed. Unfortunately when this has existed it turns into a bun fight with a few people on each side refusing to listen. It would need to be an independent site with someone acting as a moderator. Who would want to take that headache on?


Comments, since I started writing this blog in 2007 the way the internet works has changed a lot, comments and dialogue here were once viable in an open and anonymous sense. Now if you comment here I will only allow the comment if it seems to make sense and be related to what the post is about. I link the majority of my posts to the main local Facebook groups and to my Facebook account, “Michael Child” I guess the main Ramsgate Facebook group is We Love Ramsgate. For the most part the comments and dialogue related to the posts here goes on there. As for the rest of it, well this blog handles images better than Facebook, which is why I don’t post directly to my Facebook account, although if I take a lot of photos I am so lazy that I paste them directly from my camera card to my bookshop website and put a link on this blog.